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Hi guys, I'd like a little help. A couple days ago a friend asked me to help him pick out parts for his first computer build. Its going to be a budget build, although the actual budget hasn't been determined yet. In my head I was thinking of picking him out a system that would cost around $700 total (including a monitor, keyboard, mouse, but not OS).

So, today I went to Newegg and found the first "Shell Shocker" Deal of the Day, which is a PC bundle for $279. (here's a link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.758038)

It comes with:
- Screwdriver Level Light Tool (whatever that is, but whatever, its included in the bundle)
- Logisys Black Mid Tower Steel Case
- Gigabyte GA-H61M LGA 1155 H61 mATX mobo
- Intel i3-2100 CPU
- G.Skill Value Series 4GB (2x2GB) RAM (DDR3 1333)
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB Hard drive
- Samsung CD/DVD Burner/Drive

Also, there is a 480W power supply that is included with the case, which probably will be junk, but if you guys think its good enough maybe we'll stick with it.

This deal really caught my eye because I was already planning on making him a build based on the i3-2100 processor which is included in this bundle.

He wants to be able to play games such as Fallout 3, Just Cause 2, and the Witcher 2 (and probably Skyrim, but he didn't mention it because he already has it preordered for his PS3, I'm sure he'll get the PC version at some point. )

I was planning on picking out a 550Ti GPU with a ~$150 1080p monitor to pair with it. He's not interested in running games at max settings, but with the savings from this bundle we could bump him up to a 560(Ti).

So, what do you guys think? All help will be greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 21
I think it is a great deal.

Do you know if the PSU is a reliable brand?
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It's a pretty decent deal, but you'll have to get a new power supply since the 480W that comes with it will definitely be junk.

If he doesn't care about overclocking and just wants to run his games, then this setup, combined with a GTX 560 Ti or HD 6950, will be totally fine (just make sure you get a decent PSU like an Antec Neo Eco 520).

I would not recommend the GTX 550 Ti. It is a very weak card (only 192 stream processors) compared to a GTX 460/560 (336 stream processors) or GTX 560 Ti (384 stream processors). With only half the shader count, the 550 Ti is very overpriced for the performance you'll get.

I would recommend this MSI GTX 460 1GB Hawk Edition for just $127 after rebate: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffil...r&promoid=1339

Or this Zotac GTX 460 1GB for $129.99 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500202
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post #4 of 21
The PSU that comes with that case indeed junk. I wouldn't trust it any farther than I could throw it.

(I am not replying because you are promising Rep to anyone who helps)
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Bad deal.
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post #6 of 21
I wouldn't get that combo. The i3-2100 is fine, but you'd be surrounding it with very mediocre parts, and the price isn't even that good. I'd recommend scouring the For Sale subforums for good deals.
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Good deal for a budget rig imo. Mediocre parts are sometimes the name of true budget builds, you just need to find out how budget he wants his budget to be.
     
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post #8 of 21
At best the deal is ok. as others have said you will for sure be needing to replace the PSU. The others parts are medicore and probably should be replaced over time.
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Please do not ask for or offer rep for help. It gives people the wrong motivation for helping.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slausell View Post
I think it is a great deal.

Do you know if the PSU is a reliable brand?
Looking at reviews of the case, it sounds like the PSU is terrible, as expected, we'll be tossing it in favor of a different one.

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Originally Posted by 996gt2 View Post
It's a pretty decent deal, but you'll have to get a new power supply since the 480W that comes with it will definitely be junk.

If he doesn't care about overclocking and just wants to run his games, then this setup, combined with a GTX 560 Ti or HD 6950, will be totally fine (just make sure you get a decent PSU like an Antec Neo Eco 520).

I would not recommend the GTX 550 Ti. It is a very weak card (only 192 stream processors) compared to a GTX 460/560 (336 stream processors) or GTX 560 Ti (384 stream processors). With only half the shader count, the 550 Ti is very overpriced for the performance you'll get.

I would recommend this MSI GTX 460 1GB Hawk Edition for just $127 after rebate: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffil...r&promoid=1339

Or this Zotac GTX 460 1GB for $129.99 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500202
Thanks for the recommendations on GPU and PSU. And yes, I'm think that getting a higher level card from the 400-series is a better way to go now.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The PSU that comes with that case indeed junk. I wouldn't trust it any farther than I could throw it.

(I am not replying because you are promising Rep to anyone who helps)
Yep, definitely confirmed after looking through reviews of the case.

(And I apologize about that, I had seen other people do that in other threads, and wasn't aware of the policy, thankfully a mod has fixed it. )

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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post
Bad deal.
What makes you say that?

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Originally Posted by t-ramp View Post
I wouldn't get that combo. The i3-2100 is fine, but you'd be surrounding it with very mediocre parts, and the price isn't even that good. I'd recommend scouring the For Sale subforums for good deals.
I should have mentioned that we want to stick to new parts. I figured the H61 chipset would work fine for him since he isn't going to be overclocking, but I'm becoming more concerned about the poor quality of the case...

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Originally Posted by Pao View Post
Good deal for a budget rig imo. Mediocre parts are sometimes the name of true budget builds, you just need to find out how budget he wants his budget to be.
This is true. For my first build, certain parts were quality, and others were literally bottom of the bin.


Sooo.... It looks like this is a decent enough bundle? We'll definitely be looking into a new PSU, but now the case itself is giving me concerns too, because it looks like you can find a bit nicer cases for about the same price. We're far from jumping on this deal, just considering it.
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