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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
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Been making efforts to game in Arch, but as a novice it will inevitably take me more time to fix the problem than to boot into windows to play.

I am very interested in keeping Arch as my main, but figuring out gaming would require me to uninstall my current open-source driver, install the no-longer-maintained legacy proprietary driver, and figure out how to work Wine+PlayOnLinux.

It doesn't seem like too much hassle, until you get to the part where every kernel update breaks the legacy driver until the community updates it, tests it, and uploads it to the AUR. Does anyone know of an easy way to handle this situation?




That all seems a little daunting to me at the moment, especially when I just want to relax with a game after work. I'll get around to it when I get around to it, I guess.


/rant, thanks for reading.
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Originally Posted by PsycoCarrot View Post

Been making efforts to game in Arch, but as a novice it will inevitably take me more time to fix the problem than to boot into windows to play.
I am very interested in keeping Arch as my main, but figuring out gaming would require me to uninstall my current open-source driver, install the no-longer-maintained legacy proprietary driver, and figure out how to work Wine+PlayOnLinux.
It doesn't seem like too much hassle, until you get to the part where every kernel update breaks the legacy driver until the community updates it, tests it, and uploads it to the AUR. Does anyone know of an easy way to handle this situation?
That all seems a little daunting to me at the moment, especially when I just want to relax with a game after work. I'll get around to it when I get around to it, I guess.
/rant, thanks for reading.

Don't use the Repo drivers; use the drivers from the unofficial repo for AMD chips; he has a legacy catalsyt driver in his repo (granted the latest version will be the last version AMD released supporting your 4xxx series card) From there, wine-lol from the AUR is a great build of wine for gaming, it installs a Wine multiarch prefix, and is ready to run League of Legends; also install winetricks-svn from the AUR and you should be able to get most games running in Wine.

Here is the repo maintained by Vi0L0, and how to get it in your pacman:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst#Installing_from_the_unofficial_repository
And here is a guide to adding his signature to your pacman:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Vi0L0

Afterwards you can install his catalyst drivers using pacman, they include mkinitcpio hooks to rebuild the driver every time the kernel is updated - so you don't have to. I haven't had my AMD Fusion APU Minecraft server break using those drivers yet - outside of the X11 commit that made it to Arch's mainline that broke ALL catalyst systems. Fix was easy, but it still left a lot of people frusterated.
Edited by Xaero252 - 11/13/12 at 12:30am
    
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Nothing much new here, except that I can now remote debug my folding rig (doing a 30min trip when at my parents really annoyed me yesterday... FAH jammed.)
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Switched to Fedora after 5 years of Debian/Debian-based linux. (For Xen support)
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Switched to Fedora after 5 years of Debian/Debian-based linux. (For Xen support)
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post #4156 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Xaero252 View Post

Don't use the Repo drivers; use the drivers from the unofficial repo for AMD chips; he has a legacy catalsyt driver in his repo (granted the latest version will be the last version AMD released supporting your 4xxx series card) From there, wine-lol from the AUR is a great build of wine for gaming, it installs a Wine multiarch prefix, and is ready to run League of Legends; also install winetricks-svn from the AUR and you should be able to get most games running in Wine.
Here is the repo maintained by Vi0L0, and how to get it in your pacman:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst#Installing_from_the_unofficial_repository
And here is a guide to adding his signature to your pacman:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Vi0L0
Afterwards you can install his catalyst drivers using pacman, they include mkinitcpio hooks to rebuild the driver every time the kernel is updated - so you don't have to. I haven't had my AMD Fusion APU Minecraft server break using those drivers yet - outside of the X11 commit that made it to Arch's mainline that broke ALL catalyst systems. Fix was easy, but it still left a lot of people frusterated.

Thanks for the info.

Was looking up on this last night. So Vi0L0 doesn't need to update the driver with each kernel update, there is a package that rebuilds it every time the kernel is updated? You do still have to keep Xorg on 1.12, right?

That seems like it would expedite the process a bit, so the only hurdle is now installing the unoffical driver + configuring Xorg, and getting WINE to work.

Edit: in my instance, catalyst-daemon wouldn't be useful (systemd), so should I be using catalyst-generator or catalyst-hook?

Edit2: nevermind, I should use catalyst-hook, appears that catalyst-generator is for multiple kernels.
Edited by PsycoCarrot - 11/13/12 at 8:42am
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can anyone help me with getting fedora on my amd rig, it didnt work. it would get the logo then go into that grey screen like it was going to install but just sat there for hours
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I'm thinking about installing Linux on my HP Probook 4530s. It has an i3-2310m, 4GB memory, Intel HD 3000 graphics, Realtek Ethernet, Atheros AR9285 Wifi + Bluetooth, JMicron SD Card Reader, HP Webcam (720p), and a Crucial M4 64 GB SSD. I hear Linux has poor driver support for some hardware so I hope I can get everything working properly without using slow generic drivers.

Right now I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 which I got for free (MSDN) and it runs beautifully, but want to learn Linux and be able to tweak everything (I'm planning to be either a Computer Engineer or a Systems Administrator after I graduate so knowing Linux will be a plus). I've tried Ubuntu on it which was okay, but kinda sluggish and it came loaded with a lot of crap/bloat (I can remove stuff, but I'd prefer something that's a cleaner from the start). I'm pretty inexperienced with Linux so what do you guys recommend for a lightweight beginner distro? I know there's Ubuntu derivatives like Xubuntu and Lubuntu, and then Linux Mint and Linux Mint Debian Edition, though I've never tried any of these.

 

Also, does Linux support TRIM and align the SSD properly?

Sorry if I'm too picky and gave too much background info. Thanks! thumb.gif

 

Edit: I'm basically looking for a stable distro with a lightweight desktop, little to no pre-installed software, and that isn't too daunting for a beginner. I'll probably move to Arch once I'm comfortable with Linux.


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can anyone help me with getting fedora on my amd rig, it didnt work. it would get the logo then go into that grey screen like it was going to install but just sat there for hours

Press esc during when you first see that gray boot screen and you'll see all the services starting up. See if you can find anything failing to start/hanging
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I'm thinking about installing Linux on my HP Probook 4530s. It has an i3-2310m, 4GB memory, Intel HD 3000 graphics, Realtek Ethernet, Atheros AR9285 Wifi + Bluetooth, JMicron SD Card Reader, HP Webcam (720p), and a Crucial M4 64 GB SSD. I hear Linux has poor driver support for some hardware so I hope I can get everything working properly without using slow generic drivers.


Right now I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 which I got for free (MSDN) and it runs beautifully, but want to learn Linux and be able to tweak everything (I'm planning to be either a Computer Engineer or a Systems Administrator after I graduate so knowing Linux will be a plus). I've tried Ubuntu on it which was okay, but kinda sluggish and it came loaded with a lot of crap/bloat (I can remove stuff, but I'd prefer something that's a cleaner from the start). I'm pretty inexperienced with Linux so what do you guys recommend for a lightweight beginner distro? I know there's Ubuntu derivatives like Xubuntu and Lubuntu, and then Linux Mint and Linux Mint Debian Edition, though I've never tried any of these.

Also, does Linux support TRIM and align the SSD properly?


Sorry if I'm too picky and gave too much background info. Thanks! thumb.gif

LMDE definitely..
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