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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
845 Total Votes  
post #4251 of 7733
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the editing config files is a good point and all, but the real problem is the lack of mainstream OEM computers that come with it preinstalled. if mint came on every second computer at bestbuy, I doubt many people would insist on switching it for windows 7 after trying it.

They'd stick to Windows.

  1. It's what they're familiar with and know.
  2. The price would be the same ( as they are now with Dells, Lenovos and HPs, along with several others that offer it ).
  3. Lack of programs they may be familiar with and/or need. While Linux has great alternatives, see #1.

I used to try to turn people onto it daily at my friends shop. Pretty much introduced every person that came in to Linux and it was not pretty. Just the thought of using something other than Windows or OSX made most of them freak out beyond saving, even after them trying and liking it.

alternatives? firefox, liboreffice, chrome- all programs seen on a lot of windows pcs. some good ads and an invested OEM, I would wager it could happen. most of my converted family didn't/doesn't notice much different
post #4252 of 7733
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Behold!

+1 Putty!
-1 Windows 8

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alternatives? firefox, liboreffice, chrome- all programs seen on a lot of windows pcs. some good ads and an invested OEM, I would wager it could happen. most of my converted family didn't/doesn't notice much different

That's just a few programs tongue.gif, I used to deal with people that did more than facebook when I was working at my buds shop. And I too have converted my family, most of which still think they're on windows in fact, that's how bad average people are.

Libre is nice and suitable for a lot, but Office still has it beat in quite a few features. Same for GIMP, while it's pretty much up to par now with earlier Photoshop suites, it still is missing quite a bit that a good number of people use. ( not kids that use photoshop, I'm talking actual users that use it for what it's meant for ). And there's other software that honestly doesn't have a Linux alternative, some come close but just aren't right for the job.
post #4253 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Shrak View Post

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Originally Posted by beers View Post

Behold!

+1 Putty!
-1 Windows 8

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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

alternatives? firefox, liboreffice, chrome- all programs seen on a lot of windows pcs. some good ads and an invested OEM, I would wager it could happen. most of my converted family didn't/doesn't notice much different

That's just a few programs tongue.gif, I used to deal with people that did more than facebook when I was working at my buds shop. And I too have converted my family, most of which still think they're on windows in fact, that's how bad average people are.

Libre is nice and suitable for a lot, but Office still has it beat in quite a few features. Same for GIMP, while it's pretty much up to par now with earlier Photoshop suites, it still is missing quite a bit that a good number of people use. ( not kids that use photoshop, I'm talking actual users that use it for what it's meant for ). And there's other software that honestly doesn't have a Linux alternative, some come close but just aren't right for the job.

I suppose. I just see the OEMs as the main thing in the way. not that I really blame them, they are there to make money. everyone has to eat.

annywayy,

trying to cut out some the bloat in fedora. going though and disabling things I don't need, so far just done the evident ones like cups, bluetooth, spice, etc. that I don't use and reduced the start up ram by about 50mbs. still at 250 with DWM (which I just installed) so I'm hoping to cut it down by at least another 70 or 80 if not 100. overall however it matters little when starting gnome adds another 150 to the 250, but still.
post #4254 of 7733
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/funnies.html

Think that might help lighten up the mood here.

There's actually a few OEMs that do Linux. It's just they're all online only and/or extremely small. Then again I'm sure no one bothered reading that list I compiled and gave Trashhour for his Sticky. redface.gif

Anyway...I'd post a picture but all that's different is Mudkip about to be caught by a clever trap of cake under a box.

Maybe we should start a thread called the "Why Linux sucks && Why Linux rules thread"? Then I can complain about Window's and it backwards design making it cheaper to make very fast by installing programs to ramdisks while in Linux I have to get an SSD as I sure as hell will never understand PGO and all that compiling optimization stuff from Gentoo.

EDIT: PS Not saying anything bad but...the whole anti-buntu aura kind of hurts things along with the anti-"eye candy"/bloat mentality as we all know...people are shallow and like pretty things so throwing them in front of a terminal or something like openbox will turn them off. People are also lazy...(like yours truly) so that whole having to make my software work for me thing isn't exactly a great idea. It's great if it is an option to hack around...but not as the default mantra
Edited by Rookie1337 - 11/26/12 at 6:25pm
     
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Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
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post #4255 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/funnies.html

Think that might help lighten up the mood here.

There's actually a few OEMs that do Linux. It's just they're all online only and/or extremely small. Then again I'm sure no one bothered reading that list I compiled and gave Trashhour for his Sticky. redface.gif

Anyway...I'd post a picture but all that's different is Mudkip about to be caught by a clever trap of cake under a box.

Maybe we should start a thread called the "Why Linux sucks && Why Linux rules thread"? Then I can complain about Window's and it backwards design making it cheaper to make very fast by installing programs to ramdisks while in Linux I have to get an SSD as I sure as hell will never understand PGO and all that compiling optimization stuff from Gentoo.

EDIT: PS Not saying anything bad but...the whole anti-buntu aura kind of hurts things along with the anti-"eye candy"/bloat mentality as we all know...people are shallow and like pretty things so throwing them in front of a terminal or something like openbox will turn them off. People are also lazy...(like yours truly) so that whole having to make my software work for me thing isn't exactly a great idea. It's great if it is an option to hack around...but not as the default mantra

I'm not against out of the box. I am just of the opinion buntu has nothing to offer that LMDE doesn't do just as well in less. eye candy is fine. I have been a little hard on ubuntu of late, and considering mint brought me into the linux world I owe buntu a lot. I just can't see what it has to offer over LMDE and other beginner distros.
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post #4257 of 7733
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+1 Putty!
-1 Windows 8
I was going to post that laugher.gif
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That's just a few programs tongue.gif, I used to deal with people that did more than facebook when I was working at my buds shop. And I too have converted my family, most of which still think they're on windows in fact, that's how bad average people are.
Libre is nice and suitable for a lot, but Office still has it beat in quite a few features. Same for GIMP, while it's pretty much up to par now with earlier Photoshop suites, it still is missing quite a bit that a good number of people use. ( not kids that use photoshop, I'm talking actual users that use it for what it's meant for ). And there's other software that honestly doesn't have a Linux alternative, some come close but just aren't right for the job.
I actually prefer LibreOffice to MS Office for most things. What I really miss on Linux is Ableton and Paint.NET (Photoshop / GIMP are great and all, but sometimes you want something that sits between the uber l33t and uber n00b)
post #4258 of 7733
I agree that Paint.Net is a gaping hole. Someone needs to write a clone D:

Photoshop, though, now runs in Wine since a while already.

And don't get me started on office tongue.gif I hate that thing. I still use a plain text editor (Sublime Text 2, in fact). Or abiword when absolutely necessary.

My reason to still dual-boot (aside games) is my DJing software. Mixxx, just not good enough. (I use Traktor Pro 2)
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I agree that Paint.Net is a gaping hole. Someone needs to write a clone D:
I seem to recall Paint.NET was ported to Linux at one point (or at least some of the code was), but I'm damned if I know any more information than that.
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And don't get me started on office tongue.gif I hate that thing. I still use a plain text editor (Sublime Text 2, in fact). Or abiword when absolutely necessary.
Sublime is no good if you need a spreadsheet or presentation. and if I'm installing LibreCalc and LibreImpress, then I might as well install the whole caboodle. though I do quite like LibreWriter anyway.
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My reason to still dual-boot (aside games) is my DJing software. Mixxx, just not good enough. (I use Traktor Pro 2)
Yeah Mixxx is pretty crappy. Though I don't particularly like Traktor either (I have 4 decks -though annoyingly I've lost one of them- and Ableton offers a whole other dynamic to DJing; so Traktor doesn't really fill any niche for my personally)
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I was going to post that laugher.gif
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I actually prefer LibreOffice to MS Office for most things. What I really miss on Linux is Ableton and Paint.NET (Photoshop / GIMP are great and all, but sometimes you want something that sits between the uber l33t and uber n00b)

I prefer Libre as well but there's still things that it can't do that the MS Office suite can. At least for now, so for some people there's not really a choice tongue.gif And yeah paint.net would be nice too smile.gif
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