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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

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  • 11% (47)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 11% (47)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 14% (58)
    Unity
  • 16% (65)
    Cinnamon
  • 19% (77)
    KDE
  • 14% (57)
    XFCE
  • 4% (17)
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  • 1% (8)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% (27)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 4% (17)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 8% (33)
    Other
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1/26/13 at 1:21pm
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@stolid: Never used tasklists before...what do they look like?
I was just using a more generic term for taskbar... Though, have a look at Openbox's client menu. I guess that's literally a task list (pretty cool too).
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The simplicity of rc.xml is awesome. Openbox is definitely my favorite floating WM
Agreed.
Best floating WM is Openbox. Best DE is XFCE. And I'm not qualified to say what the best tiler is yet. I use awesome though.
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1/26/13 at 3:36pm
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I was just using a more generic term for taskbar... Though, have a look at Openbox's client menu. I guess that's literally a task list (pretty cool too).
Agreed.
Best floating WM is Openbox. Best DE is XFCE. And I'm not qualified to say what the best tiler is yet. I use awesome though.

Tilers are a little hard to have a "best" in. There's so many out there aimed for different needs and usages. If you want barebones tiler you can go one way, if you want a more full featured tiler you can go another way, if you want mouse support that's another branch off, or rather keep out the mouse support then there's another branch.... So many possibilities for different workflows and needs/wants.
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1/26/13 at 5:20pm
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I'm thinking of going to KDE again. It's good-looking and powerful. Though being a non-GTK DE I feel my habits are going to change, which makes me question the potential decision.
What difference does it make whether the desktop environment is Qt or GTK?

They all function the same. It's only really a developer issue

Not if you're nitpicky about integration like I am. And I have no clue what Phonon really is, at first I thought it was just KDE's answer to PulseAudio, but doesn't seem like it anymore.
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1/26/13 at 5:45pm
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@xeekei completely off topic, but wheres does the quote in your sig come from? the mind/heart one?
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1/26/13 at 5:50pm
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@xeekei completely off topic, but wheres does the quote in your sig come from? the mind/heart one?

It's my own quote, and it made people think, so I wrote it down.
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1/26/13 at 5:50pm
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I'm thinking of going to KDE again. It's good-looking and powerful. Though being a non-GTK DE I feel my habits are going to change, which makes me question the potential decision.
What difference does it make whether the desktop environment is Qt or GTK?

They all function the same. It's only really a developer issue

Not if you're nitpicky about integration like I am. And I have no clue what Phonon really is, at first I thought it was just KDE's answer to PulseAudio, but doesn't seem like it anymore.

Phonon is the multimedia API for Qt. It's not an audio framework itself, rather, it provides an abstraction for Qt applications to interface with other audio frameworks, such as gstreamer.
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1/26/13 at 10:18pm
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@Teacup: Not sure if trolling or serious....but the only good thing from Win7's taskbar besides combining shortcuts with open applications and not wasting space was the fact that you could use WIN/SUPER/META+ a number key and launch something. That is faster than typing out even one letter for a runner/terminal but switching windows in Windows is so obtuse as it's still mostly alt+tab based cycling which is so slow.

Why would I be trolling? The Windows taskbar seriously sucks. I almost always use Super and type the first few letters of the program I want to launch, it's quick and easy like you said, but you can make runners just as fast. On my laptop I use Arch with DWM (default configuration, I haven't taken the time to mess with it yet) and all I need to do is Alt+P, type in the first few letters, tab and enter. There are more steps, yes, but I'm sure you could tweak it.
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1/27/13 at 1:44am
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Not if you're nitpicky about integration like I am. And I have no clue what Phonon really is, at first I thought it was just KDE's answer to PulseAudio, but doesn't seem like it anymore.
KDE is far more integrated than any other DE. Things like Dolphin (the file manage) has built in Konsole (terminal emulator) bits, Kate (text editor / mini IDE) has Dolphin and Konsole built in. and so on. It's one of the reasons I love KDE - everything in KDE land harmonises like a proper DE should. It's also the reason why apps with KDE dependencies carry so much bloat, but that's obviously not an issue if you're actually running KDE anyway.

If, however, you're just talking about having your the same themes across all your applications, then just install a Qt wrapper for GTK, or run QtCurve on both GTK and Qt apps.

Personally though, I don't understand the popularity of GTK. Qt is -in my mind at least- a far superior toolkit.

[edit]

oh, and Phonon is just a wrapper. Most of KDElibs are wrappers around the likes of Qt libraries and of such APIs. The idea being it makes KDE's code more portable. In Phonon's case, it wraps around a number of different audio playback layers such as gstreamer. Then gstreamer will hook into your kernel-level audio subsystem (eg ALSA). I believe Phonon adds multichannel support like PulseAudio tries to - except it's stable and basically doesn't suck like PA.
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1/27/13 at 5:35am
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Not if you're nitpicky about integration like I am. And I have no clue what Phonon really is, at first I thought it was just KDE's answer to PulseAudio, but doesn't seem like it anymore.
KDE is far more integrated than any other DE. Things like Dolphin (the file manage) has built in Konsole (terminal emulator) bits, Kate (text editor / mini IDE) has Dolphin and Konsole built in. and so on. It's one of the reasons I love KDE - everything in KDE land harmonises like a proper DE should. It's also the reason why apps with KDE dependencies carry so much bloat, but that's obviously not an issue if you're actually running KDE anyway.

If, however, you're just talking about having your the same themes across all your applications, then just install a Qt wrapper for GTK, or run QtCurve on both GTK and Qt apps.

Personally though, I don't understand the popularity of GTK. Qt is -in my mind at least- a far superior toolkit.

[edit]

oh, and Phonon is just a wrapper. Most of KDElibs are wrappers around the likes of Qt libraries and of such APIs. The idea being it makes KDE's code more portable. In Phonon's case, it wraps around a number of different audio playback layers such as gstreamer. Then gstreamer will hook into your kernel-level audio subsystem (eg ALSA). I believe Phonon adds multichannel support like PulseAudio tries to - except it's stable and basically doesn't suck like PA.

I'll try KDE on my next laptop I'm gonna get. Arch Linux of course. wink.gif It's gonna be fun! I'll put on lots of eye candy to awe people at school when it's my time with the projector. biggrin.gif

Edit:
What I meant with changing my habits was more that I'm gonna need to switch from Deluge to KTorrent, xfce4-terminal to Konsol (not as big a deal), and maybe even LibreOffice to Caligra. Because you obviously want the native applications if there are any.
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1/27/13 at 6:41am
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I'll try KDE on my next laptop I'm gonna get. Arch Linux of course. wink.gif It's gonna be fun! I'll put on lots of eye candy to awe people at school when it's my time with the projector. biggrin.gif

Edit:
What I meant with changing my habits was more that I'm gonna need to switch from Deluge to KTorrent, xfce4-terminal to Konsol (not as big a deal), and maybe even LibreOffice to Caligra. Because you obviously want the native applications if there are any.

You can continue to use Deluge and LibreOffice in KDE. In fact I do run LibreOffice in KDE as I personally think Caligra has a bit of a crappy interface (personal preference). In fact, if you are really that anal about integration, there are hacks for LibreOffice to tie it into KDE more closely. But even the standard Arch libs support a Qt version of LibreOffice.

As for torrent clients, personally I have uTorrent Server running on my home server and connect to it via HTTP. It means I can keep a client running 24/7 (which is great for seeding as I try to support copyleft projects like creative commons content and open source OS images)

Speaking of Arch; I'm just about to reformat my laptop now :S
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