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2/12/13 at 11:30pm
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This makes me wonder...what's the difference between doing that and using dd? I mean I've seen everyone recommend doing that with dd but this is the first time I've seen someone suggest using cat that way.
Not much in this case, dd without any options would be slower because it uses smaller blocks, but generally they are the same. That might be different for other kinds of devices.
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2/14/13 at 6:21am
Unetbootin has been stable for me on Windows for installing Linux isos on flash drives.

In Linux I just use dd.
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2/14/13 at 2:55pm
There's a dd port for Windows that doesn't require cygwin. Unetbootin is terrible because it replaces the ISO's bootloader with a useless generic one.
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There's a dd port for Windows that doesn't require cygwin. Unetbootin is terrible because it replaces the ISO's bootloader with a useless generic one.

yeah, and that bootloader often fails to load any but the major distros. still, good in a pinch, but dd is better.
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2/14/13 at 10:01pm
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I never bother with unetbootin anymore. It has a borked bootloader every single time. dd all the way...

Is anyone else annoyed by PPAs? I hate how all the good stuff and obscure projects are in PPAs. I realize I could technically use one on Debian, but they're likely to make Ubuntu assumptions about my setup and bork my system. :/
I imagine it can be even more annoying if you run into them on a non APT distro...

Edit: Anyone know of a repository I can get KDE4.10 from? I think Sid is still on 4.8... wth.gif
I should really cozy up to Arch one of these days. Looks like I'd find all the things I want pretty easily...
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2/14/13 at 11:16pm
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I never bother with unetbootin anymore. It has a borked bootloader every single time. dd all the way...

Is anyone else annoyed by PPAs? I hate how all the good stuff and obscure projects are in PPAs. I realize I could technically use one on Debian, but they're likely to make Ubuntu assumptions about my setup and bork my system. :/
I imagine it can be even more annoying if you run into them on a non APT distro...

Edit: Anyone know of a repository I can get KDE4.10 from? I think Sid is still on 4.8... wth.gif
I should really cozy up to Arch one of these days today. Looks like I'd find all the things I want pretty easily...
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2/15/13 at 7:03am
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I never bother with unetbootin anymore. It has a borked bootloader every single time. dd all the way...

Is anyone else annoyed by PPAs? I hate how all the good stuff and obscure projects are in PPAs. I realize I could technically use one on Debian, but they're likely to make Ubuntu assumptions about my setup and bork my system. :/
I imagine it can be even more annoying if you run into them on a non APT distro...

Edit: Anyone know of a repository I can get KDE4.10 from? I think Sid is still on 4.8... wth.gif
I should really cozy up to Arch one of these days. Looks like I'd find all the things I want pretty easily...

You'd still have to setup the AUR to get many packages/programs. Plus, if you don't read the updates you might miss some important warnings.
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2/15/13 at 7:28am
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You'd still have to setup the AUR to get many packages/programs.

False. Most programs are found in the regular repo's. The only programs really in the AUR are hacked programs. Most of which aren't needed for most people unless they have odd hardware or are looking for odd features that aren't enabled or included by default.

The only ones that are usually useful are the git/mercurial ( usually kept most up to date ) versions of programs. Usually compiled fresh from the upstream source every few days or so, or more depending on how active the team is. Some of these cross into the above, hacked programs but most of those don't carry the specific postfix *-git on them.

Other than that, if you want up to date programs without being the absolute newest then you can throw in the testing repo.
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Plus, if you don't read the updates you might miss some important warnings.

It's not warnings per-say. At the end of pacman's output it will say something like " x was updated and a new conf file was placed at /etc/x.conf.pacnew ". That's pretty much as exciting as it gets for the majority of updates as long as they have config files. The glibc incident is a one in 5 year occurrence for me, as my whole 5 years using Arch it was the only time something had went wrong that I wasn't partially responsible for, same for a lot of people despite following the upgrade directions to a T.
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2/15/13 at 7:34am
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False. Most programs are found in the regular repo's. The only programs really in the AUR are hacked programs. Most of which aren't needed for most people unless they have odd hardware or are looking for odd features that aren't enabled or included by default.

The only ones that are usually useful are the git/mercurial ( usually kept most up to date ) versions of programs. Usually compiled fresh from the upstream source every few days or so, or more depending on how active the team is. Some of these cross into the above, hacked programs but most of those don't carry the specific postfix *-git on them.

To be fair, I've found a surprisingly high number of apps I use regularly were only available in AUR. But on the whole I do agree with you
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2/15/13 at 8:23am
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You can try the debian expearimental repo. It's more up to date then sid, with kernel 3.7+, kde 4.10, gnome 3.6, etc. it's not a full system (you can run expearimental) but a lot of users toss some packages from there into testing and sid.
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