Originally Posted by jrl1357
Xaero is an arch user and I don't think that is what he was talking about. I *think* it was more of a bit about some of choices made recently about the direction of the project, and some disregard of the existing community. Even if you think systemds a great idea the whole attitude of devs was pretty bad.
Exactly. Arch's philosophy is to keep it simple, stupid; And with that philosphy comes the idea that the distribution is "roll your own" which entails having a superior knowledge of internal system functions. Well, that's what makes Arch great - not only is it incredibly minimalistic, but the range of available packages is vast, and your choices nearly infinite. You can plug and play basically anything in Arch, given some knowledge. All of a sudden though the Dev's are kind of like, screw choices - you *WILL* use systemd. Want sysvinit? Too bad, not our problem ****. Gentoo, which shares a lot of Arch's philosphies saw the benefits of sytemd, and the potential desire to keep sysvinit; and offered a more proper solution: Leave it up to the user.
Similarly, Pande Group, and even Vijay Pande himself have somewhat shunned the Linux community; they aren't shunning Linux users (read: enterprises, supercomputers, large contributors) as we provide a large chunk of FAH contributions. However, on the topic of GPU computing, which is becoming a major player in both the Linux and FAH communities, they seem to be on a program of "it doesn't work, we're working on it, in the meantime, JUST DEAL WITH IT." Any questions or comments pertaining to the issue, even something as simple as "how are internal builds looking" or "does Linux GPU computing look promising like its Windows counterpart?" are met with statements like "we are non profit, don't ask for anything from us - its not our job to provide ETAS." I'm not asking for an ETA or anything, but letting us know if development is going smoothly or not wouldn't hurt, who knows maybe one of your users can help provide some insight?
Both seperate entities are making decisions that are creating general distaste within their own respective communities; I liken the situations to eachother, and made a comparison. I've been running Arch more or less hiccup free exclusively for about three years now, prior to that I was a distro hopper and didn't use anything exclusively, barring a 3 month period where I was forced to use Windows for work related reasons. I am about to run into a hiccup with my laptop with the release of Gnome 3.8 to the repos; this will break Cinnamon on Arch - an opportune time for me to play with Awesome as my work environment.