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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
845 Total Votes  
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^BOINC
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^BOINC
Hmm. Kind of off topic, but I've noticed BOINC doesn't seem to get a lot of love around here (could be my bias as I tend to focus on the folding section however). Why is that? Any particular reason you chose BOINC instead of FAH, and any reason why maybe I should too?
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FAH Seems to have a blatant disregard for *nix based development these days; BOINC on the other hand does not. Not to mention trying to talk to the Pande group is like talking to a brick wall when making suggestions or asking simple questions. Its the same story as why ArchLinux is starting to leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth these days. You get a lot of "deal with it" or "if you don't like it, don't use it" answers with both these days.
    
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^BOINC
Hmm. Kind of off topic, but I've noticed BOINC doesn't seem to get a lot of love around here (could be my bias as I tend to focus on the folding section however). Why is that? Any particular reason you chose BOINC instead of FAH, and any reason why maybe I should too?

1. I can chose the project. so that way I fold proteins or I can run seti@home, or a whole assortment of other projects.

2. BOINC is fully open source, and so are many (although not all) of the projects. F@H is not.

the reason it isn't as big, I don't know, I'm not hugely into it, but I like to let my computer look for aliens in the background. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

^BOINC
Hmm. Kind of off topic, but I've noticed BOINC doesn't seem to get a lot of love around here (could be my bias as I tend to focus on the folding section however). Why is that? Any particular reason you chose BOINC instead of FAH, and any reason why maybe I should too?

1. I can chose the project. so that way I fold proteins or I can run seti@home, or a whole assortment of other projects.

2. BOINC is fully open source, and so are many (although not all) of the projects. F@H is not.

the reason it isn't as big, I don't know, I'm not hugely into it, but I like to let my computer look for aliens in the background. biggrin.gif
post #5016 of 7733
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FAH Seems to have a blatant disregard for *nix based development these days; BOINC on the other hand does not. Not to mention trying to talk to the Pande group is like talking to a brick wall when making suggestions or asking simple questions. Its the same story as why ArchLinux is starting to leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth these days. You get a lot of "deal with it" or "if you don't like it, don't use it" answers with both these days.

I can understand how that would be annoying with a project like FAH, but Arch is a different story. That's their philosophy; don't use it if you aren't a competent user.
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FAH Seems to have a blatant disregard for *nix based development these days; BOINC on the other hand does not. Not to mention trying to talk to the Pande group is like talking to a brick wall when making suggestions or asking simple questions. Its the same story as why ArchLinux is starting to leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth these days. You get a lot of "deal with it" or "if you don't like it, don't use it" answers with both these days.

I can understand how that would be annoying with a project like FAH, but Arch is a different story. That's their philosophy; don't use it if you aren't a competent user.

Xaero is an arch user and I don't think that is what he was talking about. I *think* it was more of a bit about some of choices made recently about the direction of the project, and some disregard of the existing community. Even if you think systemds a great idea the whole attitude of devs was pretty bad.
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Xaero is an arch user and I don't think that is what he was talking about. I *think* it was more of a bit about some of choices made recently about the direction of the project, and some disregard of the existing community. Even if you think systemds a great idea the whole attitude of devs was pretty bad.

Exactly. Arch's philosophy is to keep it simple, stupid; And with that philosphy comes the idea that the distribution is "roll your own" which entails having a superior knowledge of internal system functions. Well, that's what makes Arch great - not only is it incredibly minimalistic, but the range of available packages is vast, and your choices nearly infinite. You can plug and play basically anything in Arch, given some knowledge. All of a sudden though the Dev's are kind of like, screw choices - you *WILL* use systemd. Want sysvinit? Too bad, not our problem ****. Gentoo, which shares a lot of Arch's philosphies saw the benefits of sytemd, and the potential desire to keep sysvinit; and offered a more proper solution: Leave it up to the user.

Similarly, Pande Group, and even Vijay Pande himself have somewhat shunned the Linux community; they aren't shunning Linux users (read: enterprises, supercomputers, large contributors) as we provide a large chunk of FAH contributions. However, on the topic of GPU computing, which is becoming a major player in both the Linux and FAH communities, they seem to be on a program of "it doesn't work, we're working on it, in the meantime, JUST DEAL WITH IT." Any questions or comments pertaining to the issue, even something as simple as "how are internal builds looking" or "does Linux GPU computing look promising like its Windows counterpart?" are met with statements like "we are non profit, don't ask for anything from us - its not our job to provide ETAS." I'm not asking for an ETA or anything, but letting us know if development is going smoothly or not wouldn't hurt, who knows maybe one of your users can help provide some insight?

Both seperate entities are making decisions that are creating general distaste within their own respective communities; I liken the situations to eachother, and made a comparison. I've been running Arch more or less hiccup free exclusively for about three years now, prior to that I was a distro hopper and didn't use anything exclusively, barring a 3 month period where I was forced to use Windows for work related reasons. I am about to run into a hiccup with my laptop with the release of Gnome 3.8 to the repos; this will break Cinnamon on Arch - an opportune time for me to play with Awesome as my work environment.
    
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- an opportune time for me to play with Awesome as my work environment.

Don't bother. Grab XMonad or DWM and start hacking a proper config. Every Awesome update will break your configuration file because they can't decide how they want it -.- and you'll want to rip your hair out.

Went through that for nearly a year before I decided DWM was where I wanted to stay. Then after hacking DWM so much I decided XMonad was better for what I wanted lol.
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Don't bother. Grab XMonad or DWM and start hacking a proper config. Every Awesome update will break your configuration file because they can't decide how they want it -.- and you'll want to rip your hair out.

Went through that for nearly a year before I decided DWM was where I wanted to stay. Then after hacking DWM so much I decided XMonad was better for what I wanted lol.

I'll probably install and hack all 3 simultaneously; use each for a period of time and make a decision... The laptop is my testbed for my production desktop so it's relatively important I like it a lot and it won't break... I'll probably regret not heeding your warning and ignoring awesome as an option.
    
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