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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
845 Total Votes  
post #5071 of 7733
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

That;s also a load of crap, there are no hidden check boxes.

You can't just edit and boot file, you have to know "oh I can't delete this hashtag" or "there has to be a period here". walking some one through msconfig would be just as easy if not easier. Not only that msconfig shows you pretty much what each program is.

That's utorrent, that's iTunes, that Adobe flash updater. Click, click ,click. Not only that a boot rec is matter of telling someone what commands to type in what order. I can tell you it's way easier to guide a soccer mom through msconfig than linux modification.





I like linux, but, the help isn't and ease of use always there.


Prime example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065772

no one knew what was going on or how to diagnose it. despite windows 7 not having the any problems lubuntu did.

EDIT: I'll concede to windows registry, you do need to know what your doing.

EDIT: this is all just horribly off topic but, i guess arguing is still pretty fun sometimes.

To add to what plan9 mentioned there are many similar type GUIs for configuration of Linux. KDE ships with one, Xfce ships with one, Gnome ships with one, Gnome2/MATE ships with one that is IMO the best of the lot, and well I'm not sure of exactly what lxde ships with it still has many configuration tools. Even still once you get used to the idea of editing text files in the majority of cases it is either easier or allows a higher level of customization.

As for installing Gnome, it's just like installing a package, you just install the group or meta-package. I have MATE, Gnome (plus the Cinnamon shell) and Xfce installed on my LMDE install, plus a half dozen WMs. Just aptitude install (or use synaptic). I'm not sure exactly what its called for the minimal upstream vannilla releases but for xfce from xubuntu it would be xubuntu-desktop, and likewise lubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop. You'd have to lookup gnome but it's dead simple (something a google would have told you)
post #5072 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Clearly you've never used Windows control panel; which is a mess of different windows hidden behind hyperlinks and what not.
So use a sodding GUI then!

You're moaning that Windows has msconfig and linux has a conf file. But msconfig is just a frontend for various hidden registry and config files - just as Linux has GUIs to deal with most of it's config files. (and just as I've already bloody well told you).
That's not even English.
So you're now moaning that you stumbled into a hidden menu when blindly bashing keys? Have you never thought that perhaps the problem is you?
Besides, Windows has hidden boot menus as well. So once again your point is moot.


now that is hostile. I was moaning that linux would fail on hardware that windows would work fine on, with no explanation.

"So use a sodding GUI then!" what GUI? which one? (see my point? maybe not) Linux doesn't have fancy front ends for stuff windows does sometimes/alot of the time. Though I think that may be a matter time, if doesn't already it will sooner or later.

Yeah i struggle with keyboard and typing quite a bit. I was saying i really like linux but, sometimes the ease of use and support/help isn't there.
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post #5073 of 7733
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now that is hostile. I was moaning that linux would fail on hardware that windows would work fine on, with no explanation.
It wouldn't fail without explanation. You just don't understand the explanation. But then you don't strike me as the sort that would understand a Windows BSOD either. And that's fair enough because the reason why OSs fail is usually pretty complicated and the messages often need to be quite detailed to explain what's failed and why. This is the same for Linux, Windows and every other OS.
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

"So use a sodding GUI then!" what GUI? which one? (see my point? maybe not) Linux doesn't have fancy front ends for stuff windows does sometimes/alot of the time. Though I think that may be a matter time, if doesn't already it will sooner or later.
The problem is it has too many different front ends - which is part of the reason why its such a pain to talk someone through Linux GUIs. Just because you've never bothered to look through the software center for a GRUB management GUI tools doesn't mean that none exist.
Edited by Plan9 - 4/17/13 at 1:37pm
post #5074 of 7733
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Clearly you've never used Windows control panel; which is a mess of different windows hidden behind hyperlinks and what not.
So use a sodding GUI then!

You're moaning that Windows has msconfig and linux has a conf file. But msconfig is just a frontend for various hidden registry and config files - just as Linux has GUIs to deal with most of it's config files. (and just as I've already bloody well told you).
That's not even English.
So you're now moaning that you stumbled into a hidden menu when blindly bashing keys? Have you never thought that perhaps the problem is you?
Besides, Windows has hidden boot menus as well. So once again your point is moot.


now that is hostile. I was moaning that linux would fail on hardware that windows would work fine on, with no explanation.

"So use a sodding GUI then!" what GUI? which one? (see my point? maybe not) Linux doesn't have fancy front ends for stuff windows does sometimes/alot of the time. Though I think that may be a matter time, if doesn't already it will sooner or later.

Yeah i struggle with keyboard and typing quite a bit. I was saying i really like linux but, sometimes the ease of use and support/help isn't there.

Did you read my post?

mate-control-center
gnome-control-center
xfce4-settings-manager
post #5075 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

The problem is it has too many different front ends - which is part of the reason why its such a pain to talk someone through Linux GUIs. Just because you've never bothered to look through the software center for a GRUB management GUI tools doesn't mean that none exist.

Just to name one... Grub Customizer...

And as you said there's many ( often too many ). I can think of another 10 or so off the top of my head with no problem.
post #5076 of 7733
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It wouldn't fail without explanation. You just don't understand the explanation. But then you don't strike me as the sort that would understand a Windows BSOD either. And that's fair enough because the reason why OSs fail is usually pretty complicated and the messages often need to be quite detailed to explain what's failed and why. This is the same for Linux, Windows and every other OS.
The problem is it has too many different front ends - which is part of the reason why its such a pain to talk someone through Linux GUIs. Just because you've never bothered to look through the software center for a GRUB management GUI tools doesn't mean that none exist.

I can agree with that.
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One of the things PC-BSD does really well is that it's graphical configuration tools is independent of the Desktop Environment you have chosen. So whether you using gnome, kde, or lxde you still use the same graphical configuration tools. They also very logical and easy to navigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUXWHdIA0g
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user centric doesn't mean user friendly though

Well that's because neither term means anything.

Does anyone here have much experience with DragonflyBSD?
    
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What is the real difference between BSD and Linux? The kernel? Are there pros or cons between the two? or should i say advantages of one over the other?
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What is the real difference between BSD and Linux?

Kernel, userspace, development model and religious affiliation.
    
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