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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
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post #5291 of 7733
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well they wouldn't move as fluidly as real gauges. unless you had like 80 htz LCD.

Not sure why you think that. The few LCD gauges I've seen are quite nice and as smooth as can be.
post #5292 of 7733
some people say they can see the difference between 60hz and 120hz, that's where i got the idea.
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post #5293 of 7733
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well they wouldn't move as fluidly as real gauges. unless you had like 80 htz LCD.

You do realise that the vast majority of the gaming community are perfectly happy with 60Hz; games consoles are limited to 60FPS and the majority of consumer displays are just 60Hz. And you do realise that TV transmissions (depending on your country) are below 60Hz (and that's ignoring the fact that TV signals double up frames so it's effectively half that).

Given that nobody is watching as intently at their gauges when driving as they do when watching TV or gaming, I think bog standard LCD displays are perfectly fine.
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some people say they can see the difference between 60hz and 120hz, that's where i got the idea.

There is a perceived difference. But does it really matter for an in car gauge?
Buying a 120Hz display would just be excessive (particularly when you've stated yourself that only "some people" will notice the difference.
Edited by Plan9 - 5/24/13 at 12:36am
post #5294 of 7733
Haven't moved the desktop to 13.04 yet but thought it was interesting to note that almost all of my source games are now apparently Linux ready even though Valve hasn't listed them as such in the Steam store. L4D2 works pretty good (Only 8xAA available in the Linux version for some reason) but again I suffer some weird screen tearing and occasional micro-freeze and catch-up jump issues that have plagued me with every game from Steam I've tried on Linux.

     
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post #5295 of 7733
Been playing Portal myself over the week, waiting for half life series to go on sale again to order the whole bit. Should probably try to log into my account with L4D/2 and test them out lol.
post #5296 of 7733
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Been playing Portal myself over the week, waiting for half life series to go on sale again to order the whole bit. Should probably try to log into my account with L4D/2 and test them out lol.

LOL. I'm installing Portal now. One thing that really amazes me is just how large the installs have been compared to the Windows versions. L4D2 was a full 4GB bigger in Linux for me than it was in Windows. The vsync/screen tearing issue continues to frustrate me but I'm thinking it might just be the Nvidia drivers and the fact that my GTX275 is slowly reaching the end of support. Might have to replace it next year. Here's to hoping a GTX650 Ti Boost or better card hits the sub 150 price point.
     
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post #5297 of 7733
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LOL. I'm installing Portal now. One thing that really amazes me is just how large the installs have been compared to the Windows versions. L4D2 was a full 4GB bigger in Linux for me than it was in Windows. The vsync/screen tearing issue continues to frustrate me but I'm thinking it might just be the Nvidia drivers and the fact that my GTX275 is slowly reaching the end of support. Might have to replace it next year. Here's to hoping a GTX650 Ti Boost or better card hits the sub 150 price point.

No major ( really noticeable ) tearing for me. There is a little but I think that's mostly the game, only happens in Portal when I move it EXTREMELY fast. None of my Humble Bundle games tear though. This on a relatively old GTX460SE, and it's pretty much the same on my GTX670 as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600315498%204017%20600007782&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100

650 TI Boosts are only $170, gonna punish yourself over $20? tongue.gif
post #5298 of 7733
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LOL. I'm installing Portal now. One thing that really amazes me is just how large the installs have been compared to the Windows versions. L4D2 was a full 4GB bigger in Linux for me than it was in Windows. The vsync/screen tearing issue continues to frustrate me but I'm thinking it might just be the Nvidia drivers and the fact that my GTX275 is slowly reaching the end of support. Might have to replace it next year. Here's to hoping a GTX650 Ti Boost or better card hits the sub 150 price point.

I don't get tearing issues with my Nvidia GT 240M. In fact it plays silky smooth. I was quite shocked at just how well Portal performed given that Linux basically needs a reinstall (Btrfs completely screwed Arch).
post #5299 of 7733
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No major ( really noticeable ) tearing for me. There is a little but I think that's mostly the game, only happens in Portal when I move it EXTREMELY fast. None of my Humble Bundle games tear though. This on a relatively old GTX460SE, and it's pretty much the same on my GTX670 as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600315498%204017%20600007782&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100

650 TI Boosts are only $170, gonna punish yourself over $20? tongue.gif

We'll see...I'm actually horribly torn as I'm doing an unpaid volunteering this summer at a hospital and also had a pad (Tegra 4 since OMAPs are gone) and ssd/hdd on the docket for things I was wanting/needing. I swear my addiction of and uses for tech are going to leave me in poverty forever. LOL. Really, my plan is to hold out for 2 more years on the GPU. But if I see a good deal on the boost I might talk myself into.

The one thing I really wish is that Nvidia had better controls in the Linux control panel for their cards as being unable to control the fan is a big gripe. I couldn't even get control of it with CoolBits which just added rage. mad.gif

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I don't get tearing issues with my Nvidia GT 240M. In fact it plays silky smooth. I was quite shocked at just how well Portal performed given that Linux basically needs a reinstall (Btrfs completely screwed Arch).

I assume you've got that connected with an Intel CPU? Maybe it's something up with my Athlon x4? I noticed Steam still loads pretty slow on my Linux ssd compared to Windows and it's the only program that has this issue. No amount of reinstalls of Steam fixed it. Part of me though is still surprised how well things have been working just because IIRC Valve is doing some kind porting that supposedly isn't as great performance wise as it could be if they did things the "native" way. I'll see if I can find the article on that and you guys who know more can explain what's being talked about and if it means anything.

PS: What happened with Btrfs for you? For me the only downside when I last used it in April was it made loading Linux from a boot really slow.
Edited by Rookie1337 - 5/24/13 at 12:54pm
     
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post #5300 of 7733
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I assume you've got that connected with an Intel CPU?
Yeah, i7 (which constantly overheats my laptop)
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I noticed Steam still loads pretty slow on my Linux ssd compared to Windows and it's the only program that has this issue. No amount of reinstalls of Steam fixed it. Part of me though is still surprised how well things have been working just because IIRC Valve is doing some kind porting that supposedly isn't as great performance wise as it could be if they did things the "native" way. I'll see if I can find the article on that and you guys who know more can explain what's being talked about and if it means anything.
I don't have anything to compare it against (as in I haven't run Windows for a few years now). But Steam's not been the quickest to load on my laptop (i7 + SSD + 4GB RAM)
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PS: What happened with Btrfs for you? For me the only downside when I last used it in April was it made loading Linux from a boot really slow.
It's just crap. Everything that ZFS got right, Btrfs completely failed at.
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