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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
845 Total Votes  
post #5301 of 7733
i7 Here. Steam loads relatively fast.
post #5302 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Shrak View Post

i7 Here. Steam loads relatively fast.

What's the rest of specs? Are you on an SSD as well?

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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Yeah, i7 (which constantly overheats my laptop)
I don't have anything to compare it against (as in I haven't run Windows for a few years now). But Steam's not been the quickest to load on my laptop (i7 + SSD + 4GB RAM)
It's just crap. Everything that ZFS got right, Btrfs completely failed at.

I'm starting to feel very behind here with my Athlon x4. LOL

Well I can't comment on any of Btrfs's features to be honest as I never really used them but just an end user experience it sure seemed slow to boot. Now it might have been the way MeeGo was designed but I sure remember it feeling faster in MeeGo than any other time...of course back then it wasn't even nearly as "finished" as it is now so that might have been it.
     
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post #5303 of 7733
Whole system currently...;

i7-2600k
ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe
16GB ( 2x8GB ) G.Skill RipJaws X
EVGA GTX460 SE ( 1GB )
Seagate Momentus 7200RPM 160GB 2.5" HDD
Corsair H80
Silverstone ST45SF 450W SFX
Silverstone SG05BB-Lite

Linux Mint 15 x86_64 Mate

Video driver package; Nvidia-Current ( Version: 304.88-0ubuntu1 )
post #5304 of 7733
steam loads really quick for me on mint 14 xfce, on a samsung spinpoint 7200rpm drive and 1055T cpu / 4gb 1600mhz RAM. Closes much faster sometimes rolleyes.gif
post #5305 of 7733
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

well they wouldn't move as fluidly as real gauges. unless you had like 80 htz LCD.

Digital output from a scanner to an lcd screen would be far faster and much more accurate. The gages communicate through a "K" line (smbus) in the PCM, and then are outputted through the instrument panel. Thus resulting in a smoothed out, slower response. A "direct data connection" removes the modules in between. Even being wireless, it's still faster.

This is why the Lexus LFA has lcd telemetry type instrument panel. The analogue style gauges could not keep up. 60 hz (samples per second) on an lcd screen far exceeds any standard gauge.

Jut a little FYI from the automotive tech world
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post #5306 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

I don't get tearing issues with my Nvidia GT 240M. In fact it plays silky smooth. I was quite shocked at just how well Portal performed given that Linux basically needs a reinstall (Btrfs completely screwed Arch).

biggrin.gifthumbsupsmiley.png yeay I'm not the only one with a GT240m tongue.gif It is comparable to an HD4670m.
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post #5307 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrak View Post

i7 Here. Steam loads relatively fast.

What's the rest of specs? Are you on an SSD as well?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Yeah, i7 (which constantly overheats my laptop)
I don't have anything to compare it against (as in I haven't run Windows for a few years now). But Steam's not been the quickest to load on my laptop (i7 + SSD + 4GB RAM)
It's just crap. Everything that ZFS got right, Btrfs completely failed at.

I'm starting to feel very behind here with my Athlon x4. LOL

Well I can't comment on any of Btrfs's features to be honest as I never really used them but just an end user experience it sure seemed slow to boot. Now it might have been the way MeeGo was designed but I sure remember it feeling faster in MeeGo than any other time...of course back then it wasn't even nearly as "finished" as it is now so that might have been it.

Athlon II X4? Don't feel bad, mine is an Athlon II X3 that I unlocked to an X4. Considering how a raspberry pi could fill %90 of my needs, I don't think I'll be swapping it soon either. Next upgrade for me likely a GPU- the 4250 chokes on most stream games, not really a problem since I don't game much, but I have an eye out for deals.
post #5308 of 7733
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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

Athlon II X4? Don't feel bad, mine is an Athlon II X3 that I unlocked to an X4. Considering how a raspberry pi could fill %90 of my needs, I don't think I'll be swapping it soon either. Next upgrade for me likely a GPU- the 4250 chokes on most stream games, not really a problem since I don't game much, but I have an eye out for deals.

OK I don't feel too bad. I am tempted about a Raspberry but I really need a XBMC or comparable bluray mkv capable playback device with HDMI and so far it sounds iffy on the Pi. But if you want a deal I'll part with the GTX275 for you.

My great moment of humor with Steam so far was disabling Vsync in any game leads to massive lag and almost overheats my GPU.
     
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post #5309 of 7733
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Digital output from a scanner to an lcd screen would be far faster and much more accurate. The gages communicate through a "K" line (smbus) in the PCM, and then are outputted through the instrument panel. Thus resulting in a smoothed out, slower response. A "direct data connection" removes the modules in between. Even being wireless, it's still faster.

This is why the Lexus LFA has lcd telemetry type instrument panel. The analogue style gauges could not keep up. 60 hz (samples per second) on an lcd screen far exceeds any standard gauge.

Jut a little FYI from the automotive tech world

Right. I haven't done the math, but I imagine it would take some unreal acceleration to outrun the refresh rate of a monitor. Certainly enough that staring at the monitor of a Linux car computer would be a bad idea! Well, unless there was some awesome night vision camera and infrared illuminators hooked up to it for stealth night driving. Ooo that would be fun and dangerous;-) Lol

Also, Steam is working well for me. It only sucks that I have a 700+ ms ping to the HughesNet satellite I'm pointed at mad.gif I'm not much of a gamer anyway. Maybe that's a function of being a long term Linux user;-) Just kidding. I like making things more.

It's awesome that Linux is moving up a bit in the gaming world though. I've been convinced for years, that it is a viable gaming platform. I duel-booted Windows XP and Slackware on a K62 500 with an ATI 128 back in the day. I literally saw twice the frame rate with Slackware when running ID games. I also had Linux on a MacBook Pro 4,1 and tried ETQW with both OSes. Again, Linux was the clear winner in performance (I still can't believe I paid $2000 for what quickly became a Linux Laptop rolleyes.gif ). I hope this rise in Linux gaming continues. The more popular gaming on Linux becomes , the bigger the user base will be. That would be great for developers like me, that are sickened by having to write software for MS systems because of it's popularity. I need money, but I despise working with their closed source garbage. I've been buying games from Steam and the Ubuntu Software Center that I don't even play, just to support the cause biggrin.gif This pickup in Linux gaming has inspired me to get back into game development myself. It's too bad I have a big list of projects ahead of that right now, but I will find the time.
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OK I don't feel too bad. I am tempted about a Raspberry but I really need a XBMC or comparable bluray mkv capable playback device with HDMI and so far it sounds iffy on the Pi. But if you want a deal I'll part with the GTX275 for you.
MKV works fine on the Raspi (as does HDMI). It's proprietary codecs inside AVI containers that I've had problems with.

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biggrin.gifthumbsupsmiley.png yeay I'm not the only one with a GT240m tongue.gif It is comparable to an HD4670m.
what's a HD4670m?
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Right. I haven't done the math, but I imagine it would take some unreal acceleration to outrun the refresh rate of a monitor.
Well since we're talking about 60 updates a second and car acceleration is measured in seconds as well, the maths is pretty simple: If you could drive a car that can do 0 to 60 in 1 second, then the LCD would still update your with every MPH you've incremented by. (not entirely accurate as obviously acceleration isn't as linear as that - but then no cars exist that even come close to doing 0 to 60 in 1 second anyway - so that detail is moot).

The only time you're ever going to notice the fluidity of the speedometer would be if you're just crashed into a brick wall at > 100MPH. And if that ever happens then I think you're mind will be elsewhere anyway laugher.gif
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