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Poll Results: Which Linux Desktop do you use?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 12% of voters (103)
    Gnome 2 / Mate
  • 10% of voters (85)
    Gnome-Shell
  • 13% of voters (117)
    Unity
  • 18% of voters (158)
    Cinnamon
  • 17% of voters (148)
    KDE
  • 15% of voters (134)
    XFCE
  • 4% of voters (39)
    LXDE
  • 1% of voters (15)
    Enlightenment / E17
  • 6% of voters (55)
    OpenBox / FluxBox
  • 3% of voters (30)
    Awesome / DWM
  • 9% of voters (81)
    Other
845 Total Votes  
post #5451 of 7733
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Originally Posted by phill1978 View Post

well mine and other peoples experiences with kubuntu have been favorable. and your server not crashing is probably because its red hat?
Vista might seem favorable if you've never used another os in your life, but that doesn't make it any good either .

And I've ran more disros as servers than I care to remember (sles/opensuse, rhel, oracle linux, centos, arch, slackware, Debian, ubuntu, to name but a few off the top of my head)
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there is some slight confusion here. Im not experiencing kernal crashes or service failures im litterally talking about compositing crashes that many thousands of people have experienced with KDE, cinnamon for example.
Literally two pages back someone said that cinnamon didn't crash, i then gave an easy example of how to quickly break the whole desktop just working normally as you would. Its a major bug i think i was the first to spot it! i reported it and it will probably take 6 months to fix. I can make KDE crash relatively easily when adding or removing widgets or resizing the taskbar or working with workspaces and activities, the more you flex KDE's muscles the more the cracks appear. I can fubar DE's quite easily by changing the default fonts... just some examples.

were not talking about tried and tested unix.bsd like server os's were talking about desktop distros and a lot of them are very easy to mess up. if you play nice and dont customize too much then your probably not going to get corruptions but for everyone else they do.
You mean application crashes smile.gif yeah, most of the popular DEs are buggy. As is Xorg as well. If you want something stable then you're better off E17 or a tiling WM instead of a fat DE.
post #5452 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post


You mean application crashes smile.gif yeah, most of the popular DEs are buggy. As is Xorg as well. If you want something stable then you're better off E17 or a tiling WM instead of a fat DE.

and thats all im saying ^

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Originally Posted by Shrak View Post


Just comes down to who's using them and the base programs. You expecting Mint 15 Cinnamon to not crash when it's still release candidate and not release ready is... expecting a lot quite hoenstly.

how can i blame cinnamon exclusively when i have an AMD card redface.gif but cinnamon is royally bugged atm regardless.
post #5453 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Vista might seem favorable if you've never used another os in your life, but that doesn't make it any good either .

And I've ran more disros as servers than I care to remember (sles/opensuse, rhel, oracle linux, centos, arch, slackware, Debian, ubuntu, to name but a few off the top of my head)
You mean application crashes smile.gif yeah, most of the popular DEs are buggy. As is Xorg as well. If you want something stable then you're better off E17 or a tiling WM instead of a fat DE.

E17 still has a bit before I would call it stable. It's not unusable for sure, but it does have random hiccups every once in a while.
post #5454 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Ferrari8608 View Post

E17 still has a bit before I would call it stable. It's not unusable for sure, but it does have random hiccups every once in a while.

I can only attest to E17 on Bodhi but it sure hated live sessions. Crash every 5 seconds which made it a fun game trying to get to the install icon on the desktop.
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Originally Posted by stumped View Post

The logic behind noop seems perfect for what SSD/flash media does best: random block access.

However, I know that deadline has been tweaked to create a "balance" between random block access devices and traditional rotational media. But there is still overhead associated with deadline (unless there is an explicit check as to what kind of media it is serving) for merging of io requests and sorting the io requests to create the longest consecutive access possible.

I personally run noop on my ssd, but I haven't noticed any difference between noop and dealine on my system. But from the logic side, noop makes more sense to run since it isn't merged/sorted like dealine can do.

Yeah, I just switched so I figured since I already made the leap...maybe I should check with others on whether that was a good idea. redface.gif

All the stuff I've read so far is from 2010 or older so it doesn't exactly help anymore.


On the topic of Steam. Can't figure out if it's something I'm doing wrong but L4D2 seems to overheat my computer and cause issues. I can't figure out how to get to any useful debug info as well as the dev console doesn't report anything but failing to load the same stuff it complains about failing to load in Windows.

Picture time.



Still seems surreal having Steam native on Linux after all the years of rumors and people saying it wouldn't come.
     
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post #5455 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

I can only attest to E17 on Bodhi but it sure hated live sessions. Crash every 5 seconds which made it a fun game trying to get to the install icon on the desktop.

I haven't tried Bodhi yet, but I did have a rather nice experience with it on Elive. It also works quite well in Arch most of the time. I've only had one real issue, and that was posted in this thread a week or so ago.

Playing around with some more themes... Good quality E17 themes are hard to come by, especially ones with lots of color. I don't know if I like this setup, but it's something different.

post #5456 of 7733
That actually looks very impressive! thumb.gif

I haven't been doing too much myself in terms of Linux, though I've been working with ubuntu server on my server.
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post #5457 of 7733
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To be fair, Gnome 3 (even the latest version and all its shiny extensions) is still a bit rough around the edges for anyone expecting a "classic" desktop experience.

That's why i switched to Lubuntu and have never looked back. It also comes default with with 3rd party software no messing around for mp3 codecs and flash and what not.

EDIT: What FF theme is Ferrari8608 using?
Edited by cdoublejj - 6/7/13 at 8:23pm
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I don't remember the name (can't check right now as I'm at work), but it's one of the 'Up and Coming' categorized Personas.
post #5459 of 7733
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E17 still has a bit before I would call it stable. It's not unusable for sure, but it does have random hiccups every once in a while.

You sure that was E17 and not Xorg nor whatever app you were running on top of E17? E17 has been in testing for a decade now so I'd be disappointed if it was still buggy (I personally haven't had any issues with it, but I've not used it heavily either)
post #5460 of 7733
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

You sure that was E17 and not Xorg nor whatever app you were running on top of E17? E17 has been in testing for a decade now so I'd be disappointed if it was still buggy (I personally haven't had any issues with it, but I've not used it heavily either)

I commented out my xinitrc so only Enlightenment would start, and even then the issue was only fixed when I moved my ~/.e directory, which houses all of E's user stuff. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it was some random hiccup with E17. Now the odd part was I later moved the directory back, and it's been working fine since then with all of my previous settings restored. If it wasn't E17, I don't know what it could have been. Perhaps Conky? The only thing I remember doing on my PC the night before I booted up to that issue was playing with my .conkyrc. Like I said though, I tried booting without Conky running and still had the issue. I can also run Conky fine now, though I don't have it start on boot due to laziness in reconfiguring it to match my current theme.
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Originally Posted by CSCoder4ever View Post

That actually looks very impressive! thumb.gif

I haven't been doing too much myself in terms of Linux, though I've been working with ubuntu server on my server.

Thank you!
Edited by Ferrari8608 - 6/9/13 at 7:04am
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