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Hi all, this is the first time I'm customizing a PC for myself, and I'll probably be buying and assembling this rig at end-Nov, around 27 Nov (that's when exams are over). Currently this is the mobo and processor I've chosen:

Intel I7 2600k 3.4 GHz processor
ASUS Maximus Extreme Z-Motherboard (8x/16x/16x tri-SLI support)

The question is: As all of you have mentioned, SB-E and the SB-E gaming motherboards are coming out in November..is it worth changing the mobo to SB-E and an SB-E processor? Like the 3xxx processors..cause I have had advice to switch to SB-E. However, I've read about Ivy Bridge being better and BACKWARD COMPATIBLE with 1155 sockets, as i understand it. So my question is should I stick with a SB mobo and presumably change the processor to an IB one? Is that possible? Or should I go for the SB-E mobo and processor?

Thanks for the help!
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I really wouldn't buy into socket 2011. It's going to be nice, but the 2600k is still a very capable chip. Check out a performance preview here of Sandy Bridge-E if you want. And like you said, Ivy Bridge will work in 1155 boards.

Next, that motherboard I would not recommend at all. The expansion layout is terrible and only utilizes 6 slots, and it won't support PCI-E 3.0 if you're thinking of getting Ivy Bridge later (PCI-E 3.0 is only available when Ivy Bridge is installed for the boards that support it). When using two graphics cards it will run x8/x8 from the native CPU provided lanes, and then running three cards you only get x16/x16/x8. If you run 3 cards on that board they all run right next to each other for extreme heat, and all your expansion slots are gone- no room for sound card or whatever. If you just run 2 GPUs it's worthless as it will do x8/x8 and not utilize NF200.

Assuming you want to run 2 cards or less (most sensible option IMO), then get the Asrock Z68 Extreme4 or Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3. Both of these boards utilize 7 expansion slots with a much better layout, and will support PCI-E 3.0 when IB is installed. If you are set on running 3 GPUs, get the Asrock Z68 Extreme7. It has an NF200 chip to provide more lanes (like the Maximus Extreme.)
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Hmm thanks for the info. According to Asrock's specs though, the Z68 Extreme7 runs 3 GPUs at x8/x8/x16 vs the ASUS at x8/x16/x16 but if I use 2 GPUs it will be x16/x16 vs x8/x8..so ultimately it boils down to whether I want to use 3 or 2 GPUs, with either card providing an advantage..am i right in saying that?
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Hmm thanks for the info. According to Asrock's specs though, the Z68 Extreme7 runs 3 GPUs at x8/x8/x16 vs the ASUS at x8/x16/x16 but if I use 2 GPUs it will be x16/x16 vs x8/x8..so ultimately it boils down to whether I want to use 3 or 2 GPUs, with either card providing an advantage..am i right in saying that?
NF200 adds latency, using lanes from NF200 for just two cards is going to be around the same speed if not slower than two x8/x8 lanes from the CPU, so Asus played it smart in that regard for dual GPUs, not sure what Asrock did. There will be no practically no difference in x16/x8/x8 vs x16/x16/x8 although AFAIK NF200 only adds 16 PCI-E lanes, so I'm pretty sure Asus is trolling. I would like to see proof when all three slots are populated it can maintain x16/x16/x8, but again the difference is negligible.

Do you ever need to run more than two GPUs? If you have a high budget to spend just get two 580s or two 6970s/6990 (590s are ehhhhhhh so forget that). Two cards scale better than three and you will run into less CPU bottleneck, heat, power draw, etc... Unless you are going for some HWbot points or something just buy a normal board without NF200.
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Wow thanks for the info..really glad for your help..I once thought of running 3 GTX 590s on the maximus IV Extreme-Z at x8/x16/x16, but since you say there really isnt that much difference in x8/x8/x16 and x8/x16/x16, I guess I'll be getting the ASRock after all..prepare for Ivy bridge I guess (:
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