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The average person supposedly cannot see past 60 fps.
Anyways 7900s series is a q1 release date. The real sensible thing is to wait for the 7800s which are 6900s on 28nm and uses half the tdp. 6970 is really nor a feasible option. Users say they will xfire down the line but most end up buying the new Gen.
Anyways op asked is there a better solution for the same price and indeed there is as I've said. 6850 xfire intact gives more performance at a lesser price
People say the average person cannot see beyond 60fps, but that is a ballpark number. In reality it is closer to 60-70fps which can also vary up to about 80 or as low as 55. Try defining average. Doesn't work that way.

Sure if you want to pay more and not have headroom for the future, go xfire 6870s. If you want great performance and room to xfire, while saving coin, then go 6970. I'm giving the op a good point of view, opposed to turning a blind eye and saying sure 6870s xfire perform better and leaving it at that.

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I'd imagine the true FPS difference from those cards is negligible, at best. And lest we forget some games still have issues with crossfire. When it doubt, go single GPU.
Oh, and less heat in your case = more overclocking
^ this.
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The 6970 likely uses less watts, and I'd imagine the true FPS difference from those cards is negligible, at best. And lest we forget some games still have issues with crossfire. When it doubt, go single GPU.
Oh, and less heat in your case = more overclocking
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/302?vs=292

I wouldn't call the fps. Increase neglible. And thats only a 6850.
The system power draw isn't that big a difference either.
And 6850s have been known to overclock very well. And so do the 6870s.
     
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Anyways op asked is there a better solution for the same price and indeed there is as I've said. 6850 xfire intact gives more performance at a lesser price
I just looked fairly hard and I cannot see 2x 6870s cheaper than a single 6970. Closest I found was $30 more expensive for the 6870s and they didn't have great coolers.
So better performance maybe, but not at a lesser price. Although NEAR. Not lesser. Unless you find a couple on a great sale or used. But in even that case, you can find good deals on 6970s from time to time also.
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Seriously, anything over 50-60 fps for the average gamer is superfluous.
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People say the average person cannot see beyond 60fps, but that is a ballpark number. In reality it is closer to 60-70fps which can also vary up to about 80 or as low as 55. Try defining average. Doesn't work that way.

Sure if you want to pay more and not have headroom for the future, go xfire 6870s. If you want great performance and room to xfire, while saving coin, then go 6970. I'm giving the op a good point of view, opposed to turning a blind eye and saying sure 6870s xfire perform better and leaving it at that.



^ this.
Actually never mind. I'm said my point.
ill let open decide

Btw ops 6970 is 386. A good vapor x sapphire 6870 is 180 x 2 is 360.
Ill stick with my decision for 6870 cfx. It is a much better choice as I see it. And if open wanted they'd just get next Gen anyways if it didn't meet the average as you say fps. Range
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post #16 of 42
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Originally Posted by Spykerv View Post
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/302?vs=292

I wouldn't call the fps. Increase neglible. And thats only a 6850.
The system power draw isn't that big a difference either.
And 6850s have been known to overclock very well. And so do the 6870s.
wait a minute, now.
Why didn't anyone tell me this?
Might have to go dual GPU WC... crapola time to research more. Looks like I'm going to go dual 6870.
And, just to be clear, my post was speculation and guessing, per my word choices
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wait a minute, now.
Why didn't anyone tell me this?
Might have to go dual GPU WC... crapola time to research more. Looks like I'm going to go dual 6870.
And, just to be clear, my post was speculation and guessing, per my word choices
See what benchmarks can do. A single card is really nothing special at all.

They told me the 480 was all that. But everyone bought 460 slis. And still do and it will always be better. Its no different here
     
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I just looked fairly hard and I cannot see 2x 6870s cheaper than a single 6970. Closest I found was $30 more expensive for the 6870s and they didn't have great coolers.
So better performance maybe, but not at a lesser price. Although NEAR. Not lesser. Unless you find a couple on a great sale or used. But in even that case, you can find good deals on 6970s from time to time also.
6870:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102948
$149.99 after rebate and promo code. That's newegg price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127545
$159.99 after rebate. Likely the best overall deal, and it's a Twin Frozr II.

So, $299.98 or $319.98

6970:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102918
$349.99 same brand. Newegg price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161356
$319.99 Cheapest 6970 on newegg.

.... hmmm

(I was a major fan of the CrossFire 5770's. And IIRC, they are still the best FPS for the $ cards now)
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Btw if anyone ever actually bothers to read the OP (not saying anything about you simpsonator )

op clearly specifies they want a
6970 LIGHTNING FROM MSI. It costs $386

6970 will cost $250 on eBay, with 386 already that's at $600+
The new 7900s will probably be 1.5 thanks to GNC if not 2x more powerful and same cost.
7800s will cost $250s upon release, same performance as 6900s and lower TDP, OC potential a lot higher at 28nm.
If op doesn't like the 6870 solution. It's a lot less of a wallet burner to go with a 7xxx then. That's my argument.
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6870:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102948
$149.99 after rebate and promo code. That's newegg price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127545
$159.99 after rebate. Likely the best overall deal, and it's a Twin Frozr II.

So, $299.98 or $319.98

6970:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102918
$349.99 same brand. Newegg price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161356
$319.99 Cheapest 6970 on newegg.

.... hmmm

(I was a major fan of the CrossFire 5770's. And IIRC, they are still the best FPS for the $ cards now)
I am Canadian so was looking on newegg.CA and compared using those results.
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