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So they do, but that does not change the fact that building a drop resistant phone was probably not high on the list of priorities.
Listen Noob, this is what I was replying to.
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Quality > quantity.
Samsung clearly has better Quality + Quantity apparently.
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Or you could look at it like this: Samsung 136 models, Apple 0 total models( 6 rebranded Samsung models)
Wow, head exploded from truth overload.
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apple business model

"One phone to rule them all"
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Apple: 3 Phones, 6 total models.

Samsung: 130 models [according to the Samsung site, includes both Android and Windows 7 mobile]

It's about time Samsung finally passed Apple.
Except for Samsung, they don't have precise numbers and the numbers are in "units shipped" not "units sold" unlike Apple which do give precise numbers and said numbers are in "units sold". Plus, many iPhone users were waiting for the 4S and I believe they will reclaim the top spot soon enough.
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Except for Samsung, they don't have precise numbers and the numbers are in "units shipped" not "units sold" unlike Apple which do give precise numbers and said numbers are in "units sold". Plus, many iPhone users were waiting for the 4S and I believe they will reclaim the top spot soon enough.
Apple should do a lot better in Q4, since a lot of people were waiting to upgrade.

Those will be interesting numbers, since the Galaxy S2 is also coming to the U.S. and the Galaxy Nexus will be out next month as well.
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Because high priced electronics are designed to be dropped yes? Soft touch plastic also do not distribute shock better yes? The iPhone has glass plates on for the front and the back, held together by metallic bands. It doesn't take an idiot to know what will happen when you drop that. You also have to consider, most people who get a high priced smart phone also get cases and film protectors for them. This test was pointless and very far outside the scope of general consumer usage.
A simple question. Which phone you'd rather use after a drop like that?

Also most people who buy an iphone does it for the aesthetics, which are greatly ruined using a protective case.
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The answer is that there is no valid counterargument. There's dogmatism and "clutching at straws". Such behavior makes it increasingly difficult to maintain a neutral, unbiased position (at best the appearance won't match the intentions).
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Apple should do a lot better in Q4, since a lot of people were waiting to upgrade.

Those will be interesting numbers, since the Galaxy S2 is also coming to the U.S. and the Galaxy Nexus will be out next month as well.
Indeed. Today, Apple just released the iPhone 4S in 22 new countries, so it'll be interesting to see how sales go in those countries as well.
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A simple question. Which phone you'd rather use after a drop like that?

Also most people who buy an iphone does it for the aesthetics, which are greatly ruined using a protective case.
Who would buy an ugly phone when you could buy a nice looking phone with similar functionality? I doubt many buy it purely for aesthetics.
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You have no idea the effort into designing a chip...

The A5 is based on an already established architecture. Apple didnt DESIGN this chip nor did it design the instruction set. ARM designed this processor from its superscalar pipeline to the single instruction multiple data instruction set since this is a vector processor. The A5 is an implementation of this. You wana tell people to do more research, I challenge you to the same thing.
If I'd of said create this would of all being true.

Perhaps your understanding of design and mine is different.

If you look at pretty much the first line in my post you'll see I credited ARM to to creation of the architecture etc.

It's wiki but still;

(noun) a specification of an object, manifested by an agent, intended to accomplish goals, in a particular environment, using a set of primitive components, satisfying a set of requirements, subject to constraints;


"using a set of primitive components'



Design does not necessarily mean to credit the designer with creation of all the parts just the cohesion.
Edited by Skrillex - 10/29/11 at 3:47am
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You have no idea the effort into designing a chip...

The A5 is based on an already established architecture. Apple didnt DESIGN this chip nor did it design the instruction set. ARM designed this processor from its superscalar pipeline to the single instruction multiple data instruction set since this is a vector processor. The A5 is an implementation of this. You wana tell people to do more research, I challenge you to the same thing.
Apple does design the A5, you do realise they own P.A Semi and Intrinsity? Apple acquired P.A Semi in April 2008, and Intrinsity was confirmed to have been bought by Apple in April 2010.

Intrinsity worked with Samsung to produce the 1GHz ARM Cortex-A8 chip.

P.A Semi wiki article:
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On 11 June 2008, during the annual Worldwide Developer's Conference, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said that the acquisition was meant to add the talent of P. A. Semi's engineers to Apple's workforce and help them build custom chips for the iPod, iPhone, and other future mobile devices [8] such as the iPad.[9]
It's what they acquired them for. Producing SoC and tweaking them for maximum performance with iOS. No doubt Intrinsity is also tweaking the PowerVR GPUs in the iPhone and iPad too.
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