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What is this about BF3 RAM usage? I hear it gets very high sometimes.
    
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Originally Posted by bce22 View Post
Wow, what a way to argue by switching points in the middle.

For msaa it could very well be a driver issue. One of the articles (Toms, techspot, guru3d or bit tech) made a comment about the fact that amd believedmtheir driver was working swimmingly for bf3 and the 212mb day one patch might have broke it.

On the tesselation front, you have no prove that AMD or Nvidia is better or worse at tis juncture in BF3.
I understand that alot of you guys are pretty young around here, so I'll just leave it at that....I'm not going to argue with you or the other guy, it doesnt matter to me what you believe. Sometimes you have to give people the right to be wrong, it's a part being human....Goodnight sir.
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All games should be like this.
Most games are GPU-bound, at least until you get something like 3 GPUs. How often do you hear a review say something like, "A GTX 275 will be more than enough, but to get a good framerate then you'll want at least a fast 6-core CPU."?
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well I read that the fx-4100bulldozer is slower than a phenom x4 955 but the graphics shows that it's even with the 980 and the 2500k. I want to upgrade my pc soon, my budget is very low (looking for a 120-150$ MAX) and I was wondering if the fx 4100 or 4170 is a good buy, or if I might better buy a 955/965 or a core i3 2100. I only do gaming, BF3 the most and I plan to make it last at least for the next 3-5 years and I want to buy the best bang for the buck at that range.

my question is, which should I buy?
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
You have fun maxing out the game. I tried both with AA and no AA and still get over 60fps. How can you say AMD is budget when HD 6990 is the fastest card in the world? I am sorry if you feel superior because you own Nvidia because that very very low.
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Ha! You seem to be the one butthurt because you can't max the game without it looking like a slidshow. AMD cards are budget cards, plain and simple...If you want to play max settings with great FPS, go Nvidia. If you want comparable performance to Nvidia with toned down visuals, go budget with AMD....
Both of you are fanboys. Also, AMD cards traditionally do well in games with Frostbite, and Dual GPU cards don't count since the 590 is dummed down, if you want a fair "fastest card in the world" comparison, then you must do a 6990 vs MARS 2.

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What is HQ textures they used if the first table?
@ Majin SSJ Eric

Once they fix the AA problem and HD 6970 matched GTX580 in every way What will you say then? Nvidia drivers are better, Nvidia fan-boys always seem to come up with excuses for their overpriced GPUs. On top of all this i am close to maxing out the game then you are will AA. Buy a 2560 x 1600 monitor and then you are closer.
Sigh...
none - 580
6970 - 570
6950 - none
none - 560 Ti

They all have their own price and performance brackets. A 6970 DOES NOT automatically compete with a 580 since they are both companies flagship single GPU's. Who you calling fanboy now?
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You are right... Scoreboard is scoreboard and msaa hits AMD HARD. There are some that are state 4XMSAA is cutting performance in half.

Its going to be interesting to see how the chips ultimately lay one BF3 receives performance patch and drivers become mature.

My guess is that you will be surprised how it ends up.
MSAA is pretty close to "real" supersampling (closest of all of the current AA algorithms). The current AMD architecture just lags behind when it comes to "expensive" geometry computations. Whether it comes down to Tesselation, SSAA or MSAA, AMD will take the larger performance hit. Nothing drivers will fix (at least not substantially ).

Another question is if it bothers you, I usually prefer CSAA (or FXAA in AMD's case) over MSAA. SSAA is the best though (Witcher 2 with Ubersampling uses a high level of SSAA).
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Ha! You seem to be the one butthurt because you can't max the game without it looking like a slidshow. AMD cards are budget cards, plain and simple...If you want to play max settings with great FPS, go Nvidia. If you want comparable performance to Nvidia with toned down visuals, go budget with AMD....
Dropping 1200~1300 dollars for 2 Classified GTX 580s this late in the year. I pity you.
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MSAA is pretty close to "real" supersampling (closest of all of the current AA algorithms). The current AMD architecture just lags behind when it comes to "expensive" geometry computations. Whether it comes down to Tesselation, SSAA or MSAA, AMD will take the larger performance hit. Nothing drivers will fix (at least not substantially ).

Another question is if it bothers you, I usually prefer CSAA (or FXAA in AMD's case) over MSAA. SSAA is the best though (Witcher 2 with Ubersampling uses a high level of SSAA).
To be honest, the game looks fantastic at ulta with msaa off or 2x. During gameplay when the bullets are flying my eyes cant tell the difference.

On the technical front i cant experiment the differences in graphical performance with the AA settins becuase the game freezes every time i switch the setting. Its a none bug with crossfire.

I do find it intriguing how amd compares to nvidia with it off and also with it on. Something definitely is weird.

After the bulldozer fiasco i am pulling for amd to be able to say their products outperform the more expensive nvidia offerings.

From a personal standpoint, i love the fact their is competition in the gpu market. My current build is the first time ive used an amd product. I am not tied to a single manufacturer.
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I guess we're really getting to the point where CPUs don't influence gaming performance.
 
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I guess we're really getting to the point where CPUs don't influence gaming performance.
bulldozer agrees!
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