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I'm detecting large quantities of PEBCAK.
Near lethal doses.
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I'm detecting large quantities of PEBCAK.
Or perhaps PEBCADD?
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We've found yet another reason why you don't hit your computer when it doesn't work! They now hit back! :O
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it seems that the metal piece is for the rail that holds the tray into the computer. I'm pretty sure it's physically impossible for this thing to be shot out at such a high velocity that it impales a bone in his hand. The part isn't powered by any motor, and the spring systems used in DVD trays are extremely weak.

Probably just wants free money
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I am calling BS on this one. I have worked construction for a few decades now and have been hit and have seen many others get hit by nails of every size coming out of nailguns, and the only ones that ever stuck were where the impact point was either in direct contact with the exit point of the nail from the gun, or within an inch or two after being deflected off of a steel plate or such. In one incident in particular I blew a 16 penny nail through my hand where my hand was an inch from the tip of the gun and the nail deflected off of an unseen piece of steel, and the wound was only a bit worse than what is being shown in the picture.

Also, think about it, if something stuck in you, would you pull it out, or would you leave it in until you got to the hospital? This guy left the piece in so there would be a record of the part that "injured" him so he would have evidence in a lawsuit. I have witnessed dozens of nail impalements over the years and in every case the person immediately pulled the nail out, with one exception: I was working in Telluride some years back where a contractor named Josh Kent got a nail punched directly into his chest when a worker turned to talk to him and had a framing gun in his hand, and was holding the trigger. On "trip -shoe" guns, the safety shoe will fire the gun on contact when the trigger is held, and it indeed did, and sunk below the surface of his skin in his chest, actually puncturing his heart. He lived, some people may recall this event, as it was featured on one of those "I shouldn't have survived" shows.

No way did a DVD player launch a piece of metal with that kind of force, this guy is fishing for a lawsuit. My guess is he either wounded himself in some other manner and decided to stick the DVD part in his hand, or he intentionally impaled himself with it.
Edited by Jagged_Steel - 10/28/11 at 9:47am
    
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Mythbusters debunked this years ago. You have to spin a disc about 70K-100K rpm, and even then you have to do something to it to "weaken" it substantially. Must have had 4 or 5 car batteries running in series to get the drive spinning that fast!!!
supposedly a rod from the dvd tray "shot out", the piece isnt from a spinning CD.
I call bs as well. The rod would have to go through the plastic dvd tray cover before going into his hand, causing it to loose what little momentum it may have had
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HIS drive cover was probably broken off, then when he pushed it in it got stuck and went into his hand. There is no way he could have pushed that thing through the plastic cover...

If the drive cover was missing then I call shenanigans and it is his fault.
     
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I am calling BS on this one. I have worked construction for a few decades now and have been hit and have seen many others get hit by nails of every size coming out of nailguns, and the only ones that ever stuck were where the impact point was either in direct contact with the exit point of the nail from the gun, or within an inch or two after being deflected off of a steel plate or such. In one incident in particular I blew a 16 penny nail through my hand where my hand was an inch from the tip of the gun and the nail deflected off of an unseen piece of steel, and the wound was only a bit worse than what is being shown in the picture.

Also, think about it, if something stuck in you, would you pull it out, or would you leave it in until you got to the hospital? This guy left the piece in so there would be a record of the part that "injured" him so he would have evidence in a lawsuit. I have witnessed dozens of nail impalements over the years and in every case the person immediately pulled the nail out, with one exception: I was working in Telluride some years back where a contractor named Josh Kent got a nail punched directly into his chest when a worker turned to talk to him and had a framing gun in his hand, and was holding the trigger. On "trip -shoe" guns, the safety shoe will fire the gun on contact when the trigger is held, and it indeed did, and sunk below the surface of his skin in his chest, actually puncturing his heart. He lived, some people may recall this event, as it was featured on one of those "I shouldn't have survived" shows.

No way did a DVD player launch a piece of metal with that kind of force, this guy is fishing for a lawsuit. My guess is he either wounded himself in some other manner and decided to stick the DVD part in his hand, or he intentionally impaled himself with it.
I thought generally when you're impaled by something, the best course of action is to wrap support gauze around it, do as much to stop/limit bleeding, but not actually remove it in case an artery is nicked/severed, or some other sort of compounding factor?

Also, IF (and that's a big if) this actually happened the way it was claimed, the piece of metal was apparently lodged in the bone--removing it might not be as easy as you think--or rather, it might not have been easy for that person.

I still think that whatever it was in the picture that was lodged in his hand, it didn't come from the action of closing the dvd slot.

But I guess "freak" accidents are "freak" for a reason...
    
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There is a mythbusters episode about this I think

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Well, kind of. That episode was about spinning discs fast enough to get them to explode, not parts of the track shooting out of the slot. I'm not really sure how that would be possible.
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Mythbusters debunked this years ago. You have to spin a disc about 70K-100K rpm, and even then you have to do something to it to "weaken" it substantially. Must have had 4 or 5 car batteries running in series to get the drive spinning that fast!!!
It happened to my computer when i was small, it was a CD-Drive. The drive just started making a loud whining noise that got louder and louder and then the disk inside shattered and fragments went all over the place.

I've no idea how it happened, at the time my dad said there was a few workers working on the power line down the road and it may have sent a power surge up the line or something.

The whole inside of the drive was destroyed.

I never got to play Star Wars: Force Commander

EDIT: Also on Mythbusters it wasn't "70-100k RPM" it was 23,000RPM and they didn't use "4 or 5 car batteries" they just used an electric motor to simulate different speeds.

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_shattering
Edited by amorph - 10/28/11 at 12:47pm
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It couldn't get lodged into the bone unless extreme force was used, I could see a nailgun or something but nothing from a computer. Bones aren't weak, if you've ever seen the needles they use for them... Well, lets just say it's real sharp and freaking huge. Articles like this shouldn't ever be posted, there fake and will (almost) always be taken care of quickly.

[edit] amorph the drive could never spin that fast, the circuits would blow before the motor got that fast. Unless there was something else in the drive or the drive was malformed and scratched the disc right weakening it. Heck, I don't even think the drive can grip a CD that well unless it is one of those drives with bearings (flip top). (edit2: if it did grip it, it would take a while to get up to speed)
Edited by mushroomboy - 10/28/11 at 10:12am
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