Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [ZDNet]Linux Foundation proposes to use UEFI to make PCs secure and free
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[ZDNet]Linux Foundation proposes to use UEFI to make PCs secure and free

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
The Linux Foundation and friends are working on using UEFI so that computers can be both more secure and give users freedom of operating system choice instead of using Microsoft’s secure boot plan to lock users into Windows 8.
Source

For people that were talking about not being able to use Linux because of UEFI, Hopefully soon you will be able to use Linux AND UEFI with no worries.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[ Q6600 2.4GHz ] [ ASUS P5K ] [ Radeon HD5830 ] [ 4GB 800MHz ] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
[ WD 500GB SATA ] [ DVD Burner/Reader 16x ] [ W7 Ultimate x64 ] [ Viewsonic 19" ] 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft [ 600W ] [ Antec 900 ] Microsoft 
Mouse Pad
Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[ Q6600 2.4GHz ] [ ASUS P5K ] [ Radeon HD5830 ] [ 4GB 800MHz ] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
[ WD 500GB SATA ] [ DVD Burner/Reader 16x ] [ W7 Ultimate x64 ] [ Viewsonic 19" ] 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft [ 600W ] [ Antec 900 ] Microsoft 
Mouse Pad
Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdy1337 View Post
For people that were talking about not being able to use Linux because of UEFI, Hopefully soon you will be able to use Linux AND UEFI with no worries.
Backtrack loads fine on my CHV
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
Waiting on X399
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II B57 @ X4 3.9 Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5 Sapphire Radeon 290 8 GB G.Skill 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
250 GB 840 EVO Noctua NH-D14 Windows 10 Logitech K350 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic x750 Corsair 600T Logitech G100s Razer Goliathus Speed 
Audio
Plantronics Gamecom 788 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 25
OMG they don't get it,Microsoft Secure Boot won't lock out anyone .

It is just bad propaganda against Microsoft,and has happened for the last decade now.
Black Dragon
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.3 GHZ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 (PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, B... EVGA GTX 580 1.5 GB GDDR5 G.SKILL Ripjaws X ( 4 x 2GB) @ 1866 MHZ 8-9-8-2... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120 GB Firmware 2.21 Noctua NH-D14 Windows 8.1 X64 Alienware Optx AW2310 (1920 x 1080p) 120 HZ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Corsair AX850 PLUS GOLD Certified Silverstone FT02B-W Razer Deathadder 3500 DPi 
Mouse Pad
Steel Series QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
Black Dragon
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.3 GHZ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 (PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, B... EVGA GTX 580 1.5 GB GDDR5 G.SKILL Ripjaws X ( 4 x 2GB) @ 1866 MHZ 8-9-8-2... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120 GB Firmware 2.21 Noctua NH-D14 Windows 8.1 X64 Alienware Optx AW2310 (1920 x 1080p) 120 HZ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Corsair AX850 PLUS GOLD Certified Silverstone FT02B-W Razer Deathadder 3500 DPi 
Mouse Pad
Steel Series QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beers View Post
Backtrack loads fine on my CHV
I'm not exactly knowledgeable on the whole thing about the two but I heard that with computers running Windows 8, You couldn't run Linux or any other OS because of UEFI being enabled.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[ Q6600 2.4GHz ] [ ASUS P5K ] [ Radeon HD5830 ] [ 4GB 800MHz ] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
[ WD 500GB SATA ] [ DVD Burner/Reader 16x ] [ W7 Ultimate x64 ] [ Viewsonic 19" ] 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft [ 600W ] [ Antec 900 ] Microsoft 
Mouse Pad
Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[ Q6600 2.4GHz ] [ ASUS P5K ] [ Radeon HD5830 ] [ 4GB 800MHz ] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
[ WD 500GB SATA ] [ DVD Burner/Reader 16x ] [ W7 Ultimate x64 ] [ Viewsonic 19" ] 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft [ 600W ] [ Antec 900 ] Microsoft 
Mouse Pad
Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 25
UEFI and OS boot,should be pointed to mobo manufacturers,no Microsoft.
Black Dragon
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.3 GHZ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 (PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, B... EVGA GTX 580 1.5 GB GDDR5 G.SKILL Ripjaws X ( 4 x 2GB) @ 1866 MHZ 8-9-8-2... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120 GB Firmware 2.21 Noctua NH-D14 Windows 8.1 X64 Alienware Optx AW2310 (1920 x 1080p) 120 HZ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Corsair AX850 PLUS GOLD Certified Silverstone FT02B-W Razer Deathadder 3500 DPi 
Mouse Pad
Steel Series QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
Black Dragon
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.3 GHZ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 (PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, B... EVGA GTX 580 1.5 GB GDDR5 G.SKILL Ripjaws X ( 4 x 2GB) @ 1866 MHZ 8-9-8-2... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS 120 GB Firmware 2.21 Noctua NH-D14 Windows 8.1 X64 Alienware Optx AW2310 (1920 x 1080p) 120 HZ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 Corsair AX850 PLUS GOLD Certified Silverstone FT02B-W Razer Deathadder 3500 DPi 
Mouse Pad
Steel Series QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 25
OEM manufacturers would have to provide a way to turn off secure boot in order to boot Linux with Microsoft's specifications. It would be better if secure boot did not have to be turned off so that people wouldn't have to rely on manufacturers including an option to turn secure boot off in order to use Linux.
This isn't propaganda at all although some sites reported as such and others in such a manner.
 
HTPC
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3930k MSI X79MA-GD45 Powercolor 7950 G Skill 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung 830 Swiftech Apogee XT Rev. 1 EK-FC HWLabs Black Ice GTX 240 and a Koolance HX-CU72... 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
MCP 35X and a MCP 350 Koolance 401x2 Opensuse 12.1 Windows 7 
KeyboardPowerCase
Ducky OCN with cherry blues Antec True Power New 650W Cooler Master CM690 II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-750 Gigabyte p55-ud2 GTX 430 G Skill 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
Samsung HD204UI Fedora 15 Corsair CX-430 Silverstone GC04 
  hide details  
Reply
 
HTPC
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3930k MSI X79MA-GD45 Powercolor 7950 G Skill 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung 830 Swiftech Apogee XT Rev. 1 EK-FC HWLabs Black Ice GTX 240 and a Koolance HX-CU72... 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
MCP 35X and a MCP 350 Koolance 401x2 Opensuse 12.1 Windows 7 
KeyboardPowerCase
Ducky OCN with cherry blues Antec True Power New 650W Cooler Master CM690 II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-750 Gigabyte p55-ud2 GTX 430 G Skill 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
Samsung HD204UI Fedora 15 Corsair CX-430 Silverstone GC04 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 25
The option will certainly exist in most UEFI settings, at least for the time being. You won't even be able to boot Win 7 if you can't turn it off, and since that OS (and Vista as well I'd imagine) will still be officially supported by Microsoft there is no reason why OEMs will want to kill potential sales because their clients can't run a tried and tested OS instead of the latest bling.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E GTX 560 Ti 448 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E GTX 560 Ti 448 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardv View Post
OMG they don't get it,Microsoft Secure Boot won't lock out anyone .

It is just bad propaganda against Microsoft,and has happened for the last decade now.
OMG you don't get it. Its not about being against Microsoft or about being against motherboard manufacturers. Its about being against OEM's like HP receiving monetary benefits from Microsoft to disable the users' right to disable secure boot, or at the very least be able to change the system keys installed to allow their own operating system selection to boot.

If you allow it to go on like it is planned now, and somehow Microsoft shuffles some money under the table to HP to lock down their systems, all its going to do is make S-UEFI a GIGANTIC GLOWING NEON TARGET IN THE SKY, READING "HACK ME."

Also secure boot IS NOT A MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY. Its just not. period. Microsoft is utilizing it in an attempt to act like Windows 8 is going to somehow be 'more secure' than Windows 7 or Vista or XP. Unfortunately, most of the old exploits don't touch any of the boot code, and the new ones likely won't either.

Edit: I better defend my 7/Vista/XP statement - I know, currently Windows XP is FAR LESS SECURE than Vista or 7... But Windows operating systems are like dams with holes. If you have an army of men rushing around plugging the holes in the dam, it lasts a lot longer, and the leak is less noticeable but as soon as the builders are done creating a new dam down the river, with less holes, the army falls back to the new dam and lets the old one be destroyed. Unfortunately Microsoft sucks at building dams and the new ones have holes two, so the army of maintenance men are keeping the water at bay until Microsoft puts up a new dam. Vicious cycle.
Edited by Xaero252 - 10/28/11 at 6:51pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 D0 4.2ghz HT (1.3625v) Asus R3E 2xGTX 460 (non SLi, no overclock) 6x2gb G.skill @ 6-8-6-24-1T 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD-VR 300GBx1, 2xWD 1tb,2x60gb Agility Some crappy combo burner... Arch x64 3xDell U2410f rev A02 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
X-Armor U9BL TT Toughpower 1200w (NTB more efficient) Mountain Mods Pinnacle 24 CYO Roccat Kone (R.I.P. A4Tech x7) 
Mouse Pad
Steelpad Experience I-1 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920 D0 4.2ghz HT (1.3625v) Asus R3E 2xGTX 460 (non SLi, no overclock) 6x2gb G.skill @ 6-8-6-24-1T 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD-VR 300GBx1, 2xWD 1tb,2x60gb Agility Some crappy combo burner... Arch x64 3xDell U2410f rev A02 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
X-Armor U9BL TT Toughpower 1200w (NTB more efficient) Mountain Mods Pinnacle 24 CYO Roccat Kone (R.I.P. A4Tech x7) 
Mouse Pad
Steelpad Experience I-1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jess94 View Post
The Linux Foundation & Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols are a bunch of rage nerds. Everything they say is a blatant lie, like literally, all they do is release articles and hold press releases and tell lies. Not almost-lies or mis-representations of the truth, they straight-up just lie.

Notice how Windows users never care what other people use for their OS, and don't go around trying to convert people to Windows, but Mac and Linux idiots do. Mac and Linux idiots devote their entire life to trying to convince people to join their cult.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E GTX 560 Ti 448 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 D0 MSI X58 Pro-E GTX 560 Ti 448 3x2GB G.Skill DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
840 Pro Caviar Black LG BD-ROM Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Dell U2713HM Dell U2311H Turbo-Trak (Google it :D) Corsair HX-520 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM690 Mionix Avior 7000 Everglide Titan AKG K 242 HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 25
I use MS and Linux operating systems. There should be a way for users to create keys in UEFI so that Linux/BSD/etc. users will not be shut out from Secure Boot by OEMs and MS.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Software News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [ZDNet]Linux Foundation proposes to use UEFI to make PCs secure and free