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Originally Posted by 996gt2 View Post
How about AMD's false advertising of Bulldozer pre-launch?

Ya know, stuff like:
Advertising? I'd like to see source please?
Energy efficiency probably compared to PHII X4 or X6,8 32nm cores don't use much more power than 4 or 6 45nm cores.
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post #52 of 131
Thanks OP. Interesting read. I read the first page replies and suspect the thread went downhill from there, so I stopped reading the thread. The article, however was worth a quick look. Any reason why you didn't just link the article directly, rather than the thread from another forum with the article linked?
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post #53 of 131
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How about AMD's false advertising of Bulldozer pre-launch?

Ya know, stuff like:






BAHAHAHAHAHA You act like AMD has never lied:

Originally Posted by JF-AMD
IPC & Single threaded performance will be higher. Anyone saying otherwise is uninformed, or has an agenda.

I am not saying that everything is fake, the Intel fanboys are touting the numbers that make it look bad.
Why is everyone obessing about benchmarks, I think people just like to argue.
Is somebody being paid by intel to continually post these statements? I have never lied
The crazy rumors end up with corporate customers. I have to debunk them. There is a selfish self-interest here.
You're acting like Intel has never lied or done anything wrong,yeah a selfish self interest alright.
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post #54 of 131
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now see, this is the problem i have with today's society and its gullibility :

corp A, frauds once. gets fined. people say, ok, they frauded, but they got fined. they wont do it again.

corp A, engages in shady dealing again. they get fined/ordered to fix it. people see that that corp had engaged in shady stuff again. but they say 'well they got fined', and KEEP trusting that corporation.

this is what turns this planet into a hellhole.

a corporation that is built on an affinity for shady dealings, will NOT stop when it is fined, ordered, this or that. it will find another way to keep doing such things. just like how resorted to crippling amd/via/other cpus in their widely used libraries, after being fined for their shady dealing with the pc manufacturers.

you can bet your sweet ass, that they are doing something else after they got ordered by ftc in jan 2010 to fix it.

amd is not a born and raised american corporate culture corporation. if it was, you wouldnt be overclock the chips, you wouldnt have all the amenities of chip (like virtualization) available, you wouldnt have acceptable participation in open source, there wouldnt even be an amd - they would have sold it out to intel and got away with the proceeds, like most of the same do.

there are other corporations that do not share that particular corporate culture, however it is not our subject as of now.




if i was selling stuff in ocn, and lied about my stuff twice, and engaged in fraud, would you buy from me again ?
You can explain to me all you want but I really do not give a damn. I buy what's best for my wallet, which happens to be Intel this time.

If AMD has a higher performing chip, my money will go to them.
 
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post #55 of 131
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yes, but just like in lockheed case, the profits made and damage done far surpassed the fine that was delivered.

that is how american corporations further their trade with malicious practices, because american courts provide them near immunity. its almost universal - engage in illegal dealing, get fined some percentage in lieu of excessive profits or mega damage, like in the case of bp, lockheed et al.



ivy, schmivy, i got all kinds of bridges. as long as the person in front of me is a person who actually trusts an outfit that had engaged in shady dealings and fraud more than once.

you fit the description, sir. now where should we close the deal about the schmivy bridge im going to sell you ?
Exactly,same thing happened with BP,it end up with the company paying a stupidly small amount in contrast to the profits they gained from the illegal dealings.
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Thanks orville, munch munch munch.

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post #57 of 131
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You can explain to me all you want but I really do not give a damn. I buy what's best for my wallet, which happens to be Intel this time.

If AMD has a higher performing chip, my money will go to them
.
Exactly. People in this thread act like AMD has never done anything wrong.

I guess they don't care that AMD lied to them twice about IPC and performance improvements...once with Phenom, again with Bulldozer.

Once a liar, always a liar.
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hmmm OP's thread is going the flame war road, I still say the BD is not a total failure as it's too early to judge a new architecture.
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hmmm OP's thread is going the flame war road, I still say the BD is not a total failure as it's too early to judge a new architecture.
I'd say it has gone down that road a long time ago.
     
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if i was selling stuff in ocn, and lied about my stuff twice, and engaged in fraud, would you buy from me again ?
You are taking this out of context. Intel is a huge company, you are one man (maybe less judging from your posts).

How did AMD not lie? They hyped their product up FOREVER and in the end it was a total fail processor.

In the end I will buy for price/performance. I don't care if Intel has practiced shady business in the past or even if they are doing it right this instant. There is this saying, it goes "It's nothing personal it's just good business."
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