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I don't think that a PII 980BE is cheaper than a FX4100. Not where I get my stuff anyways. FX4100 is about $20NZD more than a 955BE at my retailer.
 
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I think what has happened is that both Intel and AMD screwed up and now are in a price war. With Intel selling too low and not able to raise their prices because they've already released Sandy Bridge and AMD selling too high for Bulldozer and not being able to lower the prices because they need to make a profit. I think if Intel had known what Bulldozer was really going to do, we would be seeing the i7 2600k at the same price point that the i7 extremes were selling at a few years ago.
I think what happened was Intel released products at the same price point they had been, except last time they released 1366 before 1155, with 1366 AMD was able to charge $260+ for their chips. However once 1155 came out, AMD couldn't pass off their x4 Phenoms for over $200 because the i5-750 was a better chip at that price point. AMD released Thuban to get back into the $200+ price range, but it's ambitions were too lofty with the 1090T at $300, it dropped quickly from there down to around $230 pre sandy bridge.

With SB Intel released 1155 first, at the same price points it had released previous chips of the "mainstream" class. AMD's counter, bullldozer in this current market isn't a $200+ chip. Had Intel released 2011 first, AMD could have gotten away with gouging for $260ish again against the 2011 x4 chip which will probably be right around $310~ upon release, however that's not how it went down this time, and AMD once again is unable to actually compete on all levels with Intel's mainstream $200 product.
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That one comes out Q1 2012 with all the B3/C3 revisions.

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I don't think that a PII 980BE is cheaper than a FX4100. Not where I get my stuff anyways. FX4100 is about $20NZD more than a 955BE at my retailer.
Well, we are talking about the FX 4170 which is so far a no show. However, the FX 4100 is incredibly cheap at $120, compared to the 980 at $169 (I think it actually went up after bulldozer came out). The problem is that the FX 4100 (on stock) performs well below the Phenom II 955 through Phenom II 980 (on stock).
    
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i had the 4100 and oc'ed on stock cooler at 4.7ghz then sold the whole setup and ended up with a 955 be (c3) and cant even get that past 3.9 stable with hyper 212 evo or gigabyte watercooling system. so that is now bein sold and im buying a 4170 and with my cooler im excited. sod the 955 be not many oc past 3.8. buy the fx mate smile.gif
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you can get a 8120 for 140.00 at Tiger
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