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I know phoronix got to take a stab at a 2.5GHZ quadcore. devastator mobile = A6 ?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ty_early&num=1
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The Bulldozer architecture doesn't suck guys. It's the silicon what sucks. Poor quality caches, poor quality frontends, poor quality transistor design. Not architecture in itself.


I don't see why Trinity should fail, to be honest. They've learned the hard lesson with BD. And they have Piledriver and other optimisations en route this time. One of them, on the manufacturing process itself.
This; it will be interesting to see how Piledriver performs

It seems like Bulldozer is kind of a proof-of-concept product, or something they had to put out right then so that it wouldn't end up taking as long as Duke Nukem (wait) Forever (except that by doing this Bulldozer failed like Duke Nukem Forever). Perhaps, like Phenom -> PhII, we'll see a major improvement with Piledriver. I just hope for AMD's sake that the difference between BD and PD is bigger than the difference between Phenom and Phenom II.

From an architectural standpoint it appears that Bulldozer is sucking due to the cache and the scheduler, so it seems the architecture has more potential. And this is wishful thinking but if you look at AMD's roadmap charts in each and every one of them the difference between BD and PD seems to be much bigger than the difference between PD and SR and the difference between SR and Excavator.

tl;dr I hope AMD can cure Bulldozer's cancer/AIDS/fail/whatever, and it seems they should be able to
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If I'm not mistaken, Trinity was supposed to have Bulldozer cores, but after the release of BD, everything I have seen from AMD has stated Piledriver cores. I have done 2 FM1 builds, one for my server, and 1 for my brother. Both are solid, and well worth the money.
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For laptops, Trinity is decent. Graphics for Llano are great considering the price point [$450-550], like the potential for Trinity to improve upon this.
I'm really hoping that these Trinity chips work out well. I am interested in a laptop but not the current hardware specs. After the newy ear with some new hardware out I could get excited again.
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From an architectural standpoint it appears that Bulldozer is sucking due to the cache and the scheduler, so it seems the architecture has more potential. And this is wishful thinking but if you look at AMD's roadmap charts in each and every one of them the difference between BD and PD seems to be much bigger than the difference between PD and SR and the difference between SR and Excavator.
It is possible/plausible. But, there is one additional problem that's hindering performance aside from power efficiency...long pipelines. Albeit, right now I have zero faith in them pulling a win out of their...


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If I'm not mistaken, Trinity was supposed to have Bulldozer cores, but after the release of BD, everything I have seen from AMD has stated Piledriver cores.

No, for the most part your not mistaken. I don't recall the exact date, but they (AMD) had announced Piledriver cores being used in Trinity a couple (few?) months ago. Although, originally it was slated to have BD cores. It seems that we should've taken their hint at the current gen BD failure when they revised the Trinity roadmap to Piledriver, pre-Zambezi launch.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 10/29/11 at 1:12pm
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It is possible/plausible. But, there is one additional problem that's hindering performance aside from power efficiency...long pipelines. Albeit, right now I have zero faith in them pulling a win out of their...
The pipelines are long, but they're not REALLY long. If AMD can bump the clocks up by at least ~600MHz (which they should be able to do because current laptop Llano parts are clocked way too low and are overvolted) the IPC should be considerably better. And the way things are looking they should be able to get a quad-core Trinity above 2.5GHz within a 45W TDP
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There has been rumors that AMD has pushed out it's fab to TSMC.
That's what I implied

TSMC has been doing the GPUs... We have yet to run into issues on them. If it's confirmed that TSMC is doing the APUs this time, we might see really interesting things (TSMC's 28nm process is heavily optimised, been using it since last year).

One of them being vastly reduced power consumption respect current Zambezi cores, which power consumption is due to leakage (super poor manufacturing).
   
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I can see major improvements coming with updates to the arch. Remember that an Ex-AMD engineer was talking about "hand crafted" and automated designs for parts of a CPU. Hand crafted usually outperformed all automated designs by about 20% while being 20% smaller. So basically AMD should be able to "hand craft" these parts to free up some die space, while improving performance. That with beefing up the cache and getting better optimized schedulers and other lessons learned from the BD arch and I think we CAN be looking at a winner.

The arch obviously had potential, we can see that clearly. But whats also clear is there are many shortcomings. All we can do is hope AMD does things right this time around and can get some of the wrinkles ironed out.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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The arch obviously had potential, we can see that clearly. But whats also clear is there are many shortcomings. All we can do is hope AMD does things right this time around and can get some of the wrinkles ironed out.
Say wrinkles or say San Andreas Faults ...
   
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The Bulldozer architecture doesn't suck guys. It's the silicon what sucks. Poor quality caches, poor quality frontends, poor quality transistor design. Not architecture in itself.


I don't see why Trinity should fail, to be honest. They've learned the hard lesson with BD. And they have Piledriver and other optimisations en route this time. One of them, on the manufacturing process itself.
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