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you all are acting like EA just screwed you over on this, they have done nothing to you personally. who says that they ever will even look at whats scanned? you figure they have millions of users why would they pay someone to look at that unless there is monetary gain?
I didn't know the department of defense had a totally weak arguement division.

Go to muckety.com. Type in electronics art. When the connection map opens up click on the money behind electronics art. Watch screen explode with intricate network of companies and people.
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I don't understand what everyone is so worried about. I just ran Process Monitor (above post) and Origin wasn't scanning anything. Seems like a lot of unnecessary paranoia to me.
I'll be honest and state that I don't know how these scanning programs work but one might think that they don't work ALL THE TIME. Run that program for a week and then I'll be much more inclined to believe that they might not be running scans.
    
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YES POWER TO THE PEOPLE. Wish US did this. I don't think I'll buy BF3 now till origin fixes whatever garbage it's up to (just to protest), but I never check my finances or keep important documents on my gaming pc so meh.
Too busy occupying Wall Street to care about one video game, a computer and some spyware. @ US
    
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Originally Posted by Razi3l View Post
Good. I hope EA remove that spyware crap, I want my privacy.
You can have your privacy back, after they know all of your secrets..
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Originally Posted by ZainyAntics View Post
I never understood why people give a damn about them scanning stuff... some people are just so anal about things, I have nothing to hide on my PC so why should I care.
"I have nothing to hide so I'll just let random strangers into my house anytime so they can look around."

If people keep up stuff like this and let their privacy go away, things won't turn out well. Let me know how you feel when you wake up in the middle of the night and some dude is watching you sleep. You have nothing to hide right?
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I read about this. I wonder if steam scans all my computer data. . .
it doesn't.

like the articles say, you can use process explorer to watch what it scans. + VAC is mostly server side.

it's sad. BF3 is such a great game, but Origin is such a crappy service.

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"I have nothing to hide so I'll just let random strangers into my house anytime so they can look around."

If people keep up stuff like this and let their privacy go away, things won't turn out well. Let me know how you feel when you wake up in the middle of the night and some dude is watching you sleep. You have nothing to hide right?
exactly. It's a snowballing effect. If they try to take and you give, they will only try to take more.

And german's know about snoballing effects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came

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"First they came…" is a famous statement attributed to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text of the quotation is usually presented roughly as follows:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Edited by pale_neon - 10/29/11 at 8:50pm
    
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Go for it. Install Origin and monitor it with Process Monitor at the same time. Seriously - go for it. If it's already installed, fire up Process monitor and launch Origin.

It doesn't just scan 'Program' folders. It scans almost everything. Including your 'User' folders (which includes, documents, pictures, etc) and much, much more. Seriously - those of you touting in disbelief, feel free. Try it for yourself. You'll see.
I just did this and I can now truly give the to this.

I used the monitor to check what files were looked at during Steam install.

I used the monitor to check what files Origin was looking at during install.

Conclusions:

1 .
The screenshot/story of the guy showing Origin looking at his tax program folder before setup is bullhockey, since his screenshot shows the .exe of an already fully installed Origin.

His screenshot therefore shows nothing but Origin doing a program file survey. Something he already agreed to when clicking the "I agree" box during EULA agreement screen on Origin installation.

Origin does program surveys in program files related folders. He tax program was installed in program file related folders and so it was included in the survey......duh?? Why is this surprising?

If I have a folder called "this is where all my personal info is" in my program folders and I know Origin does program folder searches, why am I then going to freak out?

If this person agreed to a Steam survey, it would check his program files too....since Steam DOES include software in its surveys.

2.
The Origin installer DID NOT scan my program files.

3.
After installation and running, it looked in my program data file briefly then its just origin file and nothing else.



Basically.

-Origin doesn't software sweep before it installs

-It doesn't look in your user files while running.

-It does look at program data, like it says it would in the EULA while running, but only during initialisation. After that its just Origin folder access.



Long story short...meh?

Reality doesn't fit the outrage or fearmongering full of misinformation tbh.


Disagreeing with what is actually happening is fine, but running around like a headless chicken spouting off random rubbish is just.....
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 10/29/11 at 8:51pm
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I just did this and I can now truly give the to this.

I used the monitor to check what files were looked at during Steam install.

I used the monitor to check what files Origin was looking at during install.

Conclusions:

1 .
The screenshot/story of the guy showing Origin looking at his tax program folder before setup is bullhockey, since his screenshot shows the .exe of an already fully installed Origin.

His screenshot therefore shows nothing but Origin doing a program file survey. Something he already agreed to when clicking the "I agree" box during EULA agreement screen on Origin installation.

Origin does program surveys in program files related folders. He tax program was installed in program file related folders and so it was included in the survey......duh?? Why is this surprising?

If I have a folder called "this is where all my personal info is" in my program folders and I know Origin does program folder searches, why am I then going to freak out?

If this person agreed to a Steam survey, it would check his program files too....since Steam DOES include software in its surveys.

2.
The Origin installer DID NOT scan my program files.

3.
After installation and running, it looked in my program data file briefly then its just origin file and nothing else.



Basically.

-Origin doesn't software sweep before it installs

-It doesn't look in your user files while running.

-It does look at program data, like it says it would in the EULA while running, but only during initialisation. After that its just Origin folder access.



Long story short...meh?

Reality doesn't fit the outrage or fearmongering full of misinformation tbh.


Disagreeing with what is actually happening is fine, but running around like a headless chicken spouting off random rubbish is just.....
Show proof.
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I still have the monitor running RIGHT NOW.

If you want proof, you can literally download the 1.6 MB process tracker from MS yourself and check it

Tbh, the fact that the guys picture shows "origin.exe" looking at his PROGRAM DATA and seeing his tax PROGRAM in his PROGRAM data file, when the origin installer is called "originsetup.exe" is enough proof to kill the "origin searches ur stuff before u even installs/agree to teh EULA!!!!" story people in this thread keep selling.

I honestly cba to go out of my way for people who are obviously just on the wagon.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 10/29/11 at 9:02pm
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dem germans be mad
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