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Yes that's partly correct but having the client included with the game does not mean that you paid 60$ for it. Regardless you can use Origin for free, and atm BF3 is the only game that forces you to use it.

And again I'd argue that forcing you to use it is kind of similar to FB or Google. Both are so huge that you will be profiled and monitored even if you don't use their services. Facebook for example keeps track of your doings in the sites that have any FB elements, like the like-button. At least with origin you get to accept the EULA before they start getting marketing info out of you.
No matter how you reword it, the scope of difference between what FB and Google do is too vast to compare to what Origin is doing.

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Origin is clearly a plot by Hitler to take over the world...

Once again, I reiterate, if you don't like it don't use it. It's just a game. Since you accept the EULA, they can do whatever is said in it. If they did it without your permission, THEN it would be illegal. They're doing what they're doing because you said they could.
It's a slippery slope dood. Corporations work together many times to push an agenda where you have no option but to agree to terms and conditions that should be illegal in the first place. If EA gets away with it, soon Activision and the others will try. If games can get away with it, soon the OS's will want a crack at it.

EULA's are basically the corporate way to get around federal law. You think it's only a game now but soon it will be the OS you use, your car, your phone, your ISP or cable provider, etc etc.
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It actually surprises me that video gamers aren't more up in arms about this, given that certain devs have been warning us about stuff like this will eventually end up ( see MGS 2, Deus Ex new and old, Assassin's Creed ).
    
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Damn I just ordered a hard copy. Great now, I won't be installing this. I will be waiting for a resolution.
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Forgive me, i only read a few replies but this looks more like it's just some anti-cheat measure. As far as i can tell its only scanning for malicious files and its not sending any data back. For those that use AV's are sure after you scan your pc and update with a new virus list that it does not send any data back.
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It actually surprises me that video gamers aren't more up in arms about this, given that certain devs have been warning us about stuff like this will eventually end up ( see MGS 2, Deus Ex new and old, Assassin's Creed ).
Up in arms about what. No one has even found out what it is sending back. People here make wild assumptions and then run with them because they are popular.

To be honest, i'm happy not getting caught up in the hysteria and hype and instead, having a good, fun game of BF3
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This is awesome. This is how I feel about Origins in my mind, but I have never been able to properly express it.
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No one has even found out what it is sending back.
Well, you even pointed out the problem yourself!
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If you dont agree to the terms of the EULA, then here is a simple solution

Don't install BF3 or Origin

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Up in arms about what. No one has even found out what it is sending back. People here make wild assumptions and then run with them because they are popular.

To be honest, i'm happy not getting caught up in the hysteria and hype and instead, having a good, fun game of BF3
Those people will in all probability defend companies like Valve and Apple for doing the same thing too
    
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Well have fun revolting, raging, cancelling your orders or sitting on your copy.

I'll just be over here enjoying the game, nothing too important running on gaming PC anyway.
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Jesus Christ.

The game in itself isn't bad. Origin is.
that's all good and fine but you cant run the game without origin


ok after 30 min of reading (even then i could get through every page) It looks like EA has peed in the proverbial bowl of cornflakes overthere. I hope they intend on fixing this soon. I dont own BF3 Nvida and its insane amount of driver issues and TDR put a halt to it, but this may be the final nail in the coffin. For my personal purchase anyway.
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