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:kungfu:It would be interesting to find out what causes this....

I suspect it is not the hardware but the digital sound I/O from the game.

I have a X-Fi Fatal1ty and it's located next to two GTX 580's without any trouble.

Which BF3 crackle are you referring to? The intro is supposed to have the crackle...The in game effects however run Krystal on 5.1....kungfu.gif
    
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Originally Posted by marduk666;15529572 
i dont think creative is the problem i have a Asus xonar xense and it crack when windows boot up and if i change the ohms setting

X-Fi cards DO crackle more than Xonar cards. But X-Fi natively supports hardware 3D positioning, and thus some gamers prefer it (I find the Xonar more immersive than the X-Fi ever was though). The Xonar sounds better in music overall, so it's a tradeoff between gaming and music fidelity.

A properly grounded case with proper audio connections should not crackle.
   
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A game's audio samples may have levels, or DC biases, that are unusually high. These samples can overload the X-Fi audio enhancement algorithms which result in output streams that clip, or exceed, the allowable output signal swing.

Try reducing the game's audio level. Where this is not possible, try reducing the master volume level in Windows.

Very lengthy handling of Interrupt Service Routines (ISR) and Deferred Procedure Calls (DPC) by the graphics driver on nForce motherboards (Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte are some motherboard vendors that use this chipset), particularly when nVidia SLI graphics are used. One game where this problem has been observed is the game Far Cry, though other games may be affected as well. These times have been observed to be as long as 100 milliseconds and causes the audio data buffers handed to the sound card driver by the application to become stale.
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X-Fi requests for PCI bus service are being "retried", or deferred, an extraordinary number of times, presumably while the graphics system is using system memory when playing Battlefield 2 during complex graphic scenes. It may also occur in other games, and is associated most often with nVidia nForce chipsets with SLI graphics. The Sound Blaster X-Fi sound card can withstand up to about 450 bus retries on occasion, but in some cases there are over 8,000 bus retries for a single request, for a total deferral time of up to 2 milliseconds (240 nanoseconds per retry). These deferrals can cause audio defects in non-Creative PCI sound cards as well.

Had the same problem but found this on Creative's site.

Read more... http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?url=http://ask.creative.com:80/srvs/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe/,/?st=326,e=0000000001702382564,k=3801,sxi=6,case=obj%2824669%29,kb=ww_english_add,varset=ws:http://us.creative.com
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post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by Artikbot;15529901 
The Xonar sounds better in music overall, so it's a tradeoff between gaming and music fidelity.

I disagree with this statement. Which card specifically are you referring to when you say the xonar sounds better? Not all X-fi cards are the same. As far as I can see there is no trade-off between gaming and music now that we have the TITANIUM HD.
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Just put in an HT Omega Striker and I have no problems at all. Sound is clean and clear. I will probably never by a Creative product again.
post #26 of 37
I have noticed this crackling problem only in BF3 so far. No other application causes this, but once I load up BF3 it starts crackling. I'm using the headphone jack at the back of my Titanium HD. Sometimes when I change the audio settings in the game from Hi-Fi to something else and back to Hi-Fi, it seems to fix it.

EDIT: I only recently installed windows 7, and up-to-date drivers etc.
Edited by txtsd - 11/3/11 at 11:55am
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post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by txtsd;15546585 
I have noticed this crackling problem only in BF3 so far. No other application causes this, but once I load up BF3 is starts crackling. I'm using the headphone jack at the back of my Titanium HD. Sometimes when I change the audio settings in the game from Hi-Fi to something else and back to Hi-Fi, it seems to fix it.

EDIT: I only recently installed windows 7, and up-to-date drivers etc.

From what I gather the problem is a resource conflict with nvidia cards while in sli. Mine didn't get that bad until I enabled nvidia surround. Windows doesn't report any IRQ conflicts so you don't get the option to manually change it, which is pretty stupid IMO.
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Originally Posted by d-block;15546643 
From what I gather the problem is a resource conflict with nvidia cards while in sli. Mine didn't get that bad until I enabled nvidia surround. Windows doesn't report any IRQ conflicts so you don't get the option to manually change it, which is pretty stupid IMO.

Is there no specific arrangement to avoid this conflict? My Titanium HD is in the top PCIe x1 slot, and the graphics cards are in the PCIe x16 and x8 slots under it.
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post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by txtsd;15546702 
Is there no specific arrangement to avoid this conflict? My Titanium HD is in the top PCIe x1 slot, and the graphics cards are in the PCIe x16 and x8 slots under it.

I noticed a small reduction in crackling when I moved the card to my bottom x16 slot. I used to have it in the 1x slot above the gpu. That's where I would aim to put it. And you may not even get this problem at all. Seems to be a small amount of people that get this problem.
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I noticed a small reduction in crackling when I moved the card to my bottom x16 slot. I used to have it in the 1x slot above the gpu. That's where I would aim to put it. And you may not even get this problem at all. Seems to be a small amount of people that get this problem.

I think I'll try rearranging the cards once my new thermal paste gets here. 25% off on newegg, bought a bunch of MX4 smile.gif I have to re-seat my CPU waterblock and clean it out too. I'll also be replacing the old MX3 from my GPU heatsinks, that's when I'll swap the cards around and see what results I get biggrin.gif
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