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Originally Posted by Jagged_Steel View Post
All you need to do is click on Ballas name to see why he endlessly posts this anti-AMD crap. He imagines himself to be some sort of Intel crusader, check out the profile pic he has posted:

http://www.overclock.net/customprofi...ic130898_1.gif
Regardless of what you think of him, his facts are right on. Aside from that he backs up his claims with accurate benches. IIRC it is even the only on topic post in this thread till now. I wouldn't really call that a crap poster. About the pic however, can't the guy have some fun ?
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Originally Posted by Jagged_Steel View Post
All you need to do is click on Ballas name to see why he endlessly posts this anti-AMD crap. He imagines himself to be some sort of Intel crusader, check out the profile pic he has posted:

Your inability to sense sarcasm is mind boggling. Like a deer in the headlights on these forums, Jagged.
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Yeah... Because someone who paid over 200 dollars for a CPU is gonna come out and say "i'm a moron for buying this CPU. The performance is exactly like ALL of the major review site stated". That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?
but its not as disparate when you test on neutral software.


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The reason that AMD's market share went up was because of their Llano notebook and HTPC APUs. Also, the market as a whole is improving. This has NOTHING to do with Bulldozer. I would suspect that AMD will get massacred in the high end CPU sales this upcoming holiday season.
Improved earnings was why the shares went up

Yeah AMD is gonna get hammered in that new $350 pc/laptop market come christmas.

As to the high end market, what all 50 buyers ?

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If I was an AMD guy and I was sitting on a 9xx series chipset, I would wait for the next stepping to at least come out before I contemplated switching up to BD. That having been said, 955s and 1090ts are a downright bargain right now and unless you're crunching massive sets of data, you won't notice much difference between them a intel offerings. Especially when overclocked.
but your not a AMD guy

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Intel have gone off and raised the prices on their 2500k and 2600k CPUs because of AMDs inability to compete. This is a dick move on their part, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that in X86 computations, Intel is FAR above AMD right now.

After they had initially lowered them to make SB cpu's more price competitive in reviews.

Yawn
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what i want to know is-When is AMD going to announce the winners of the Operation Scorpius contest?
surely at or around the 17th of Oct(as AMD said) should have been in Oct and not Nov?
    
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but its not as disparate when you test on neutral software.
Ok... So when the "neutral" software is catered to the CPU, then it's neutral?? AMD KNEW what programs would be used to test the X86 power of the chip. Review sites have been using the same software for well over 3 years now. It's not like the review sites said "in order to screw AMD, we're going to change our test software at the last minute to favor Intel". Review sites are there for a reason. If AMD didn't like the way the sites conduct their test reviews, then maybe they shouldn't have sent them the sample chips in the first place.

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Improved earnings was why the shares went up

Yeah AMD is gonna get hammered in that new $350 pc/laptop market come christmas.

As to the high end market, what all 50 buyers ?
You do realize that by "high end market" i'm including the FX-8102 + 8150 in there as well, right?? AFAIC, anything over 200 for a CPU is high end. So i'd be surprised if less than 50 people purchased new rigs this winter.

Yes, improved earnings are why AMD improved. You'll notice that the stock took a nose dive upon the announcement of the delay of the new FX processors in late august, and then again when the cpus were actually released to the public earlier on last month. The reason that the stock is rebounding is because they have resolved their supply chain issues regarding their fusion CPUs with TSMC.

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but your not a AMD guy
And that's for you to decide?? Since when are you the all knowing?? And even if I wasn't, that automatically disqualifies be from making a comment about what I view as price to performance value in regards to AMD?? Yeah, ok...

I have a X4 955 that I run in my server right now. It's great for it's job, but it gets thrashed by my 2500k. I was going to upgrade to bulldozer, but it just didn't impress me. Why would I throw away money on something inferior just to stay with a particular brand?? That's ridiculous.

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After they had initially lowered them to make SB cpu's more price competitive in reviews.

Yawn
Well yeah... AMD pulled the wool over everyone's eyes on Bulldozer. Intel tried to take as much steam out of the sails of bulldozer as they could by lowering price. Little did they know that they didn't need to do anything. They could have raised prices even more if they wanted since AMD flat out lied to customers.

There's a reason chief investors say these things about AMD as a company.

"Credit Suisse ladles out the sour punch, calling AMD “a trade-able stock, still not an investible company:”

"Bank of America Merrill Lynch says AMD did fine, but it still prefers Intel and keeps its “sell” rating on AMD:"

"Oppenheimer was similarly unimpressed, saying the stock has already run far enough:"
 
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I do plan on buying an fx chip, more than likely after a newer revision is released. The OP just wanted to know if anyone who has had SB and went to BD and how they liked the change. then you get ALL these intel owners thrashing at him saying bd sucks, look at the benchmarks, etc etc and thats not what he was looking for. No reason for them to state whats been stated in every BD thread on the internet. It just gets extremely old. And yes I have seen the benchmarks and do not think that bd is a bad cpu regardless of all the benches. I DO have a problem with the price it is at as of now and think that 8120 is def a $190 cpu and 8150 is a $225 cpu. I got all my parts for my build off a guy on craigslist brand new unopened with receipts for half price literally so I couldnt turn it down. A BD chip would be a great investment for someone in my situation because of all of the money saved on other parts.
    
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Most people are saying that he isn't going to find anyone what went from sandy bridge to bulldozer because bulldozer shat the bed.
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The performance is exactly like ALL of the major review site stated".
So you believe everything you read?

You believe review sites don't have bias?

Do you believe all the benchmarks where Bulldozer did beat Sandy?

Do you own Intel stock?

Just saying.
    
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Little did they know that they(Intel) didn't need to do anything. They could have raised prices even more if they wanted since AMD flat out lied to customers.
Actually what's holding me back on buying a SB processor is the price. I'd like the 2500k to be priced at $150 and 2600k to be priced at $179.

Intel does need to lower prices, and so does AMD.

I don't think they intentionally lied they just made predictions on performance.

AMD is doing fine as a company. With mainstream demanding small form factor, Llano and APUs are the future.
    
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this thread has it all..balla..jagged steel..:: i guess i'll hold on to my sabertooth..and see if amd comes out with a quick revision..like with phenom2..then i'll wait 1 more stepping ::
 
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