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Pointless as always....

Can't argue with a shill

Forgot they freeze up instant you add rational and logical constraints to their mind
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post #92 of 174
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So, that is Intel Shills excuse these days

Oh we are faster in the irrelevant screen resolution but slower in the relevant resolution

Going to ignore HardOCP they are showing Intel Shillism by using awful timings(OC'ed ram for Sandy Bridge but non-OC'ed ram for Bulldozer)
You're saying that all of the major review sites are frauds?

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The reason they used the same memory is to keep the test EVEN. If they used 2166 memory, they would have to use the same memory on both CPUs to keep it even.

BTW, this is what happens when bulldozer is fed higher frequency memory.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8...zer/13704.html
 
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post #93 of 174
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Pointless as always....

Can't argue with a shill

Forgot they freeze up instant you add rational and logical constraints to their mind

Nice to see the same person who was so wrong in the bulldozer blog is back being wrong about everything while being obnoxious once again.

WB buddy!
    
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Nice to see the same person who was so wrong in the bulldozer blog is back being wrong about everything while being obnoxious once again.
I was only a wrong about a few things

1. FX-8150 destroys your CPU @ stock when your CPU is @ 5.2GHz in my workloads(which is compute heavy)

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You're saying that all of the major review sites are frauds?
Well, they don't reflect my workloads so yes they are all frauds trying to show me Single Task benchmarks and trying to show me a person does 15 to 30 tasks at given moment the Intel system still stalls and the AMD system keeps on going


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The reason they used the same memory is to keep the test EVEN. If they used 2133 memory, they would have to use the same memory on both CPUs to keep it even.
That is the point to use overclocked memory for both systems...

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BTW, this is what happens when bulldozer is fed higher frequency memory.
VR-zone doesn't know how to benchmark so I don't know why you used them they can't even get the scaling right with Cinebench R11.5
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I was only a wrong about a few things

1. FX-8150 destroys your CPU @ stock when your CPU is @ 5.2GHz in my workloads(which is compute heavy)

You must be taking about power draw, where you're right, the x8 does destroy the i5-2500k @ 5.2GHz in power draw even if the x8 is at stock.

You were wrong about everything, there wasn't a single thing you said that was true.
    
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Its obvious the OP doesnt want to hear anything bad about BD. It seems he has already made up his mind. Just let him do what he wants and let him be either pleased or displeased. If he is pleased he will go around saying I TOLD YA SO, I TOLD YA SO, and if he is displeased then everyone else will go around saying I TOLD YA SO, I TOLD YA SO. In either case, we are relegated to watching behavior equivalent to a 5 year old. SIGH.
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You must be taking about power draw, where you're right, the x8 does destroy the i5-2500k @ 5.2GHz in power draw even if the x8 is at stock.
Nope, I am talking about multitasking the thing Intel's have always failed at
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Did you just say upgrade?

... not sure if serious ...
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Did you just say upgrade?
Going from Nehalem, Sandy Bridge -> Bulldozer is pointless, yes spend your money you can always get from your job!!! SPEND IT!!! <--- /sarcasm

If you are going from Core 2/Phenom II -> Bulldozer it is a 51/49 thing(I am part of the 49% waiting for Vishera....)

If it is any older than that Bulldozer is going to be an upgrade or if it is a cheap i3 from either generation
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Since you like touting the [H] results so much...









http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...mance_review/1


Unless you are blind, you will notice a real world difference.
Edited by BallaTheFeared - 11/3/11 at 12:52pm
    
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