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I’m a water cooling newbie. I’ve built 3 air cooled computers but I’ve always been intimidated with water cooling. I finally got up the courage to jump in the water and started ordering stuff yesterday. My desire is to build a quiet but capable computer with high quality components that can be overclocked (never overclocked either) if I get up the courage to try overclocking. So far I have ordered:
•Case Labs TH10 with pedestal
•Two Black Ice SR-1 560 radiators
•10 Noiseblocker Black Silent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
•Corsair AX1200 (More power than I need but hope if running at 300 to 400 watts it will be quiet and if running at 650 to 750 watts it will be relatively quiet.)
I want to go with an Aquacomputer Aquero 5XT, some Poweradjust 2’s, and two loops, one for two EVGA 580 Hydrocopper 2 3072 MB video cards and the other for cooling CPU, RAM, and a full motherboard water block.
Now, what pumps for a quiet but capable computer? I’m thinking of two options now but am totally open to other suggestions.
Option 1:
•Four Koolance PMP-450 pumps (D5 Vario W/Tach Lead)
•Two Koolance RP-452X2 dual 5.25" bay reservoirs
•I would use two pumps in series per reservoir for more power but with speed turned down low for quietness.
•Option 1 should have plenty of pumping power but will it be too noisy?
Option 2:
•Two Aquacomputer Aquastream XT Ultra pumps
•Two EK or I&H reservoirs
•Option 2 should be very quiet but will I have enough pumping power?
What pumps do you suggest for a quiet but capable computer?
Edited by JB3 - 10/30/11 at 12:04pm
post #2 of 22
wow..i use 1 danner mag-5..and..it's quiet.err..mcp655 for you? i'm thinking that would be good
 
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post #3 of 22
You should also look into the Swiftech MCP line. They are very common around here and many ways to mod them. They are decently quiet, less then a typical fan. You might have better answers if you ask in the WC section
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My understanding is the Swiftech MCP 655 and Koolance PMP-450 pumps are pretty much the same D5 Laing pump accept the PMP-450 comes with a tach wire that can be hooked up to show pump RPM. Am I wrong about these pumps being pretty much the same?
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Hang on a sec, th10 doesn't support 560's does it? Only 480's??
     
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Originally Posted by stren View Post
Hang on a sec, th10 doesn't support 560's does it? Only 480's??
The TH10 Pedestal that the OP said he had ordered does though
post #7 of 22
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stren, your post certainly got my attention! And alstorm I have to say I was very happy to see your post. Doublechecked on Case Labs website to make sure base supports 560's anyway.
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Just wanted to jump in here on this thread ( don't mean to hijack....but while we're on the subject) I see a lot of guys using the MCP355's and MCP655's in a series/parallel.

What I don't get is , it seems the 355's are more popular , and I can't seem to find any dual 355 water blocks , but for the 655's they make quite a few. Like these >>> http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10...tl=g30c107s156 If a guy wanted to mod two 355's and put them both on one big loop , what is the most common way to do so? I'm considering doing both pumps with mod top blocks for better performance and redundancy by running two pumps.

Supposedly , the 655's put a lot more heat into the water compared to the 355's I guess? Just don't understand why a bunch of companies make dual 655 attachments , but nothing for the 355's?
    
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Dang....looks like I missed a few of the dual mod top blocks for the 355's. Just correcting myself here.
    
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Yeah I was going to say I think there are more 355 dual tops than 655's. To the OP, I've been thinking about this myself today as my xspc 750 kicked the bucket. According to martin's liquid lab the koolance 452x2 with 2 in series is about as loud as a gentle typhoon ap-15. So I don't think it will be too loud. That res is also a pain to fill and prime. The D5's also dump heat into the water too.

Option 2, although not as strong as 2 d5's has decent performance for more restrictive loops (they're actually pretty weak for low restriction loops). It also has the benefit of the interface to the aquaero giving you flow monitoring and temp monitoring.

So it's up to you, they'll both work. The dual D5's will have better flow rates, but the aquastreams have more features.
Edited by stren - 10/30/11 at 6:27pm
     
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