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Also, water cooling you need to buy "blocks" and this blocks are litterally so specific and can easy cost you in the late hundereds, there is cpu block, chipset blocks, GPU blocks of every single different nature, and you need the EXACT ones for your system, you can just amazon a bunch of different parts, there are pumps, resivors, rads, kill coils ect and they arnt all always intercompatible. Water cooling is something to do, for the sake of doing to show off, in the end you are gunna Loose money, time, have issues down the road, worry about leaks, and rust on the blocks, ect.
   
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I know what you mean with water tubings looking flashy I love the look of them too
But you could always mod the phantom and cut a piece of plexyglass out and fit it into the side where the 230mm fan could be fitted i RECOMMENDED THIS CASE TO MY FRIEND HE LOVES IT but couldn't fit the 200mm fan on the door because of hight restrains of his cpu cooler and will fit a double radiator inside
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hey yea like i said I'm a mega-noob when it comes to all this...I literally just started my build like 2 months ago not knowing anything about any of the current tech + brands

watercooling sounds like a costly investment with little reward performance/maintenance-wise...however, I am a bit weird in that the tubing looks so cool that I think I am willing to justify the aesthetics for performance/maintenance...i dunno i always had a fascination with fancy watercooling tubes I see in pics...it's that image that got me hooked on the idea of overclocking in the 1st place so I'm hoping to realize that image soon

hmm the Phantom is start to look really appealing now...I like how you can fit the plexiglass into the two side-windows but what I really wish is that you could put a huge single-plate of plexiglass into the side...but it's good to know it's a flexible solution for watercooling...the exterior and everything is awesome just need a large side window for me

yep, I have my research work cut out for me...i thought I was almost done with my build just having to pick a case...but now it looks like I'm gonna have to pick out all the future air cooling + watercooling parts in advance so I can pick out a solid case
    
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if money aint an option then look at this this is newer model of mine the only thing is radiater mout and especialy the pump mount I took the water cooling out for more room in the case
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1288&pageID=4932
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I think fist you need to decide how far you want to go with the cooling experiments on this particular build before you pick a case.

Air cooling is literally just stock cooling beefed up a bit. If you have a good tower cooler on hand, by all means test it, but if money is a concern, it would be a total waste to buy a $60 or so cooler just to replace it with liquid.

Liquid cooling is sustainable with fairly minimal maintenance, looks great, and can offer both lower temps and lower noise than any air cooler, all while offering the fun and experience of actually building the loop. It also "unlocks" some new placement options. It's the logical upgrade from air, being in every way better other than the small maintenance required, the cost, and the possible (low if properly done) risk of damage.

TEC's aren't direct coolers. They're more of supplements for either traditional air or liquid systems. You can use a TEC (or a series of them) to help give your cooler some extra power, and possibly break ambient-temp limitation. Adding a few TECs to a liquid loop can allow you to get the liquid below room temp and can allow a reletivly small loop to obtain better temps than even a room full of passive radiators could ever achieve. That said, they are extremely inefficient and have their own set of problems to overcome. Overcoming said problems usually involves a lot of added costs, or sacrifices in cooling potential which in many cases render the TEC nearly worthless. They're a lot of fun but you need to know what you're getting into with them. Id suggest some research.

Phase change cooling, simply put, is very similar to sticking a tiny air-conditioner in your case and piping the air from it directly to your cpu. Much like a TEC it can cool beyond ambient temps, but they're expensive. They're also loud and somewhat bulky. You almost have to get them custom made as there are very few premade options and it is unlikely that you will find one you are satisfied with for the price. They are also limited in that it gets significantly harder and more expensive as you start adding additional components to it. You can totally forget about cooling the entire rig via phase change, as you might do with liquid.

Dry Ice, Liquid Nitrogen, Liquid Helium and other similar endevors are all very much temporary. none of them are the slightest bit sustainable or cost effective. You are somewhat likely to break something doing it anyway. It also takes a LOT of prep time and effort. Even if you chose to experiment with this, you will need some other form of cooling for the 99.9% of the time you arent running dry ice or ln2 or w/e. Also, while it IS possible to use a normal case for LN2/DICE/etc, it is usually advisable to do so caseless or on a testbench/torture rack.



Now... you've also missed 2 of my personal favorite ways to play around with cooling, those being submersion, and 100% passive cooling. Neither of those options are compatible with any pre-made case however.
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