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I'd add one of these video cards to it, just for added dedicated graphics to give a little better experience for video/gaming for them:

AMD 6670 1GB $75:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161386

GT440 1GB $79:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127571

They don't require any power from the PSU, they work just off the power of the motherboard pcie slot.

G skill 2x2GB $45:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231207

Probably get a new hard drive, but if they just use it for email and what not..I don't see why you'd bother because from those specs it says it already has a 1TB drive in it.

If you can find out if it will support a bit better CPU, that could be a decent option. It wouldn't do them much good though being the most CPU intensive thing the computer does is just play WoW.

How about a bluray drive? They're only about 50 bucks, maybe it would help them view it more as a media center rather than the thing they check their email on? heh
    
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The Athlon II X2 in the system should be fine for awhile performance wise, I would leave that alone. However, I would suggest transplanting that CPU into a new MOBO, new DDR3 memory, also a dedicated GPU and might as well buy a reputable PSU for the system to keep it up and running reliably for years to come....

I'm assuming it's a micro-ATX board in there but really not sure. if it is microATX, here's the board I would suggest: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131699

this GPU: GDDR5 HD 6670: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161375

This PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371033

and this memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820313080

That's $264 shipped. You can send in for $25 worth of MIRs to get the price below the $250 mark here.

Now... the only problem might be that with a mobo swap, you may need to do a system reinstall to get things working properly. Also, the included install disc (if any) on the emachine will likely not work on a machine that has had a mobo swap. So.. my whole upgrade suggestion here really only works if you have a copy of windows for the system on hand that is a regular copy, and you don't mind doing a reinstall.

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Edit in: I don't suggest buying into any GPU that is less than the performance of a GDDR5 version of a HD5670. Avoid the gt220/430/440/520 and HD5450/6450 series, they are all lacking enough Render output Units to be serious contenders as dedicated GPUs. A few dollars more than those cards will buy really decent GPUs, which makes the performance/$ of those low end cards pretty bad.
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Wishlist

Here you go, GPU, PSU, Bluray and RAM: 228 bucks
    
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cool, thanks for all the help everyone! this has made it very easy to narrow what i should get for their pc.

i was scared that their cpu might bottleneck them if i got a good gpu in there, but i guess its better then i thought =].

i already have a case for them that i will move all the stuff in ( rosewill challenger, im assuming that its a better case then the one that came with their pc), and yes i do have windows 7 that i can give them ( got a free copy from engr department, so might as well use it for them)

im checking out everyones suggestions right now. so much choices, didnt think id have so many @.@

anyways, + rep to everyone that suggested and helped

edit:

umm, i was looking at the 6670, and it says that the recommended psu for it was a 400W supply, would i be alright with the antec 380W then?
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Yessir, it'll be fine with the 380 watt. (I'm running my system on a 350 watt, the 4850 suggest 450, and i KNOW my card pulls alot more juice than that little thing haha..)
    
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awesome!!

so i think i have it figured out:

gpu: HIS radeon hd 6670 1 GB
psu: Antec earthwatts green EA 380W continuous
memory: G.SKILL 4 GB DDR2 800 ( had faster timings)

now im wondering about this last choice though:
a new motherboard, or the blu ray player

ill contact emachines tomorrow to find the exact specs of the mobo and post them here, and if its good then ill go for the blu ray player. if not however, then ill go for the mobo =]

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cool, thanks for all the help everyone! this has made it very easy to narrow what i should get for their pc.

i was scared that their cpu might bottleneck them if i got a good gpu in there, but i guess its better then i thought =].

i already have a case for them that i will move all the stuff in ( rosewill challenger, im assuming that its a better case then the one that came with their pc), and yes i do have windows 7 that i can give them ( got a free copy from engr department, so might as well use it for them)

im checking out everyones suggestions right now. so much choices, didnt think id have so many @.@

anyways, + rep to everyone that suggested and helped

edit:

umm, i was looking at the 6670, and it says that the recommended psu for it was a 400W supply, would i be alright with the antec 380W then?
Yea if you're moving everything to a new case, then I will edit my suggestion above to include a different mobo...

The 380W antec will not only handle a 6670 and an athlon II X2, it will handle much more than that. I would say the upper limit would be a 125W rated CPU like a phenom II X4/X6 and a GTX560/HD6870 class GPU. You should be fine with this PSU for this machine for many years to come.

When GPUs are listed with a minimum PSU recommendation, they are generally considering the fact that many PSUs are poor quality and overrated by the manufacturer. When it comes to PSUs, quality is really more important than manufacture claimed power output. I would trust that Antec 380W more than any 500W+ rated PSU at the same price point.
     
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Personally, I don't see what you'd be gaining by getting a new motherboard aside a chance to possibly upgrade to a quad core CPU (that's if the motherboard currently in it doesn't support them). If you're not going to stick a quad in it now, then whats the point of sidegrading the motherboard when you can just do that later if they ever needed the extra CPU power? Sure, ddr3 ram is cheaper but it's not like there's a huge performance difference between ddr2 and ddr3 (I know they definitely wont be able to tell the difference)

That dual core sounds decent for what they use their PC for, if you think they'll use the bluray and it will give them more incentive to use their PC, then that's what I'd go for personally. If you don't think it will grow on them or they wont use it, then I'd say scout for a motherboard
    
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Hi Allen86,

I think the logical reason to "semi-side-step" on a mobo is to get PCIE X16 2.0 support. The current board might be an old 1.0 slot (this is the unknown variable), which is likely to cause problems with most logical GPU upgrades. The upgrade to DDR3 is a nice bonus though, probably won't have much of an impact on performance but the RAM will use less power and make less heat, not to mention, a 2x4GB DDR3 kit is about the same cost as upgrading the current machine to 6 or 7GB (depending on current config) with a 2x2GB DDR2 kit. (DDR2 prices are higher than DDR3, because DDR2 is sold in such low volume these days).
     
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awesome!!

so i think i have it figured out:

gpu: HIS radeon hd 6670 1 GB
psu: Antec earthwatts green EA 380W continuous
memory: G.SKILL 4 GB DDR2 800 ( had faster timings)

now im wondering about this last choice though:
a new motherboard, or the blu ray player

ill contact emachines tomorrow to find the exact specs of the mobo and post them here, and if its good then ill go for the blu ray player. if not however, then ill go for the mobo =]

thanks again for the help everyone!
Looks good to me. I would go for a new hdd too though. It will be like night and day.
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