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My observation and my reading shows some hdd's are priced 20% higher than norm.not all and not double.I bought 4 500gb 7200 6.0 Baracuda's at 44.00 from Amazon before the flood and now they are 59.00 on the egg. 44.00 was a darn good price, perhaps too low to use as a comparison.
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I personally don't see what the point in upgrading that computer would be. Are they having problems with it? Is it slow? Like someone pointed out, perhaps optimization would be a better choice. By adding more hardware there is always the chance of introducing hardware conflicts.

If you get a new motherboard, then you'll have to install an OEM version of windows. Then you'd have to at least spend another 35 bucks to get windows on there.

Getting a decent size SSD would not be a bad idea, but the size being limited to 60gb is kinda confining. My parents save everything to the desktop for whatever reason. I tried multiple times to tell them to move it over to the large slave harddrive, but I might as well be speaking a different language.

My recommendations, better gpu and perhaps better monitor. Those are something they would be able to see the difference visually.
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I really dont understand why people are recommending a hard drive upgrade. There's already a 1TB drive in the thing, sure its 5200RPM, but when all they do is check email, minor web browsing and his sister plays WoW/records video from a webcam...it's seriously not worth the cash for a silly SSD or new hard drive. It's just a general use home PC, I think its hilarious to even suggest he blows 200 bucks on an SSD which I believe someone even recommended. Hell, his sister plays wow, it has onboard video and you're suggesting a SSD/HD will give them the biggest increase in performance? That's laughable at best. I don't think people really read things before they start suggesting parts.

OP, stick with what you were going for.

380W Antec PSU
6670 1GB GPU
Either Mobo + DDR3 RAM
or DDR2-800mhz RAM + Bluray

or maybe if you can extend your budget a little, the best way to get the best of both worlds is get the Mobo, DDR3 ram and the bluray
    
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In a general use PC the hardware will make no effect on general surfing and running of programs. WoW is not very demanding and I maxed it at 1440x900 with a X2 3600 + 7600 GT 256 back in 2008.

A SSD WILL load programs MUCH faster, and that will make the PC FEEL faster
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I would seriously go for llano cpu, mobo, ram and try to fit a 7200 hdd in there, would destroy everything.

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I'd get a SSD, that makes everything more snappy and a budget GPU like the $20 9600 GSO in the online deals section.
This. good thing i decided to read the thread or i would of said teh EXACT same thing. when i built my parents their pc in january, i slammed a i5 and a SSD in it. the SSD makes all the diffrence. go for a 90gb or 120gb, get a cheap dedicated gfx card (nvidia), and use the rest on ram. Sit down with them and show the that they now have 2 hard drives (im guessing you would keep the existing drive for data storage), and show them that they need to keep saved files on the HDD and everything else on the SSD. Sitting down with them and sharing knowledge (and time) will be a nice bonus to your parents.
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post #47 of 51
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In a general use PC the hardware will make no effect on general surfing and running of programs. WoW is not very demanding and I maxed it at 1440x900 with a X2 3600 + 7600 GT 256 back in 2008.

A SSD WILL load programs MUCH faster, and that will make the PC FEEL faster
It will feel faster, but that's about it. Aside boot times, applications may load a whole .5 - 2 seconds faster but then once they're loaded, they'll still feel as sluggish as before. SSD's are a finisher, when there's other components obviously in need of upgrading, it's pointless to point right toward the finish line and say "GET AN SSD!! SSD!!" unless you actually have a valid reason to utilize it...then he'd have to show them to save their files on this opposite drive (their 1TB) and it becomes more of a hassle for them in the long run...if it's not broke, don't try to fix it.

Also, not to sound rude, what you say about the graphics is irrelevant. Especially since you're comparing a dedicated 7600GT gaming graphics card that is considerably better than an onboard 6150SE integrated graphics solution primarily used for desktop tasks and video playback, however you can do some very mild gaming at very low resolutions with it. My last video card was a Geforce 6200 256MB which was just a bit better than the 6150SE integrated, it's terrible. Not to mention, the 6150 doesn't even support DX10. If they're using a 17" or greater sized monitor, a dedicated graphics card would be a no brainer upgrade especially since he mentioned some gaming is involved, whether it be WoW or not.

Rather than have stuff just "load faster", the other upgrades mentioned have way more advantages than an SSD could ever provide alone. Sure, if he already had dedicated graphics, a more updated system and was looking to top it off with something extra, the SSD would be a valid option...but in this case, it's a waste of money that could better be spent elsewhere.
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In a general use PC the hardware will make no effect on general surfing and running of programs. WoW is not very demanding and I maxed it at 1440x900 with a X2 3600 + 7600 GT 256 back in 2008.

A SSD WILL load programs MUCH faster, and that will make the PC FEEL faster
WoW has had expansion packs and new graphics since 2008, also a 7600GT is about 10X faster than the onboard 6150LE in the emachine that is being upgraded here.

You say that WoW ran fine on your 7600GT, would it have run fine if you are getting 1/10th the FPS that you were getting? Yes, that's how bad it will be if he sticks with the stock GPU, completely unplayable.

But it will load really really fast, so who cares whether it runs right eh?

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I swear if one more person tries to talk this guy out of a decent GPU then all hope is lost for this forum.
     
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post #49 of 51
If you guys will bother to read what I posted, I also suggested he get the 9600 gso for $20, that + the ssd would make that pc feel turbo charged.

3 gigs is obvious not in dual channel but is more than needed for wow.
post #50 of 51
what about getting a 10k hard drive after the psu upgrade? It will feel faster and won't be the price of an SSD.
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