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If they're free, then awesome.

If they're 5 bucks, then good.

If they're 15 bucks, then screw off DICE.
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If they're free, then awesome.

If they're 5 bucks, then good.

If they're 15 bucks, then screw off DICE.
Umm I'm pretty sure they're expansion packs and not map packs like CoD.

And expansion packs for $15 is nothing new :/
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This thread is making me feel angry in the morning and I don't like it.

What in the name of - is wrong with people who feel that no extra content should be released after the game's launch. And that releasing that extra content automatically means that the game was not ready at launch? seriously? That's just ridiculous.

Also the argument "I already gave them 60$ and now they milk me for more" is kind of bad. Really, really bad. Yes you gave them 60$ and yes you got the product that you decided was worth 60$ for you. After this you are not entitled to extra content for free. Support and patches, yes, but extra content is something that the developer will have to spend significant money and time in making and only adds to the game. Yes the developer/publisher is asking you for more money but how is that in any way free when they're giving you more content in return and if you do not want to buy that content you are not in any way forced to do so.

DLC isn't inherently bad. Before we had good and bad expansion packs and now we have good and bad DLC. That's just the way products are, some are worth it and some are not.
 
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Having read this thread a few times I feel I need to chime in for what its worth. I agree that packs containing 4 maps are a jip and shouldnt be paid for content however expansion packs that contain new weapons, vehicles and maps on the other hand are a very differet story and should be paid for.

Im now going to disgress into a slightly OT rant:

I cannot believe some people here and how much they whine.

To my ears it goes something like this:

"Devs dont treat the PC community with resepct any more"
"I dont want to have to pay $60 for a game"
"No one makes A grade titles any more / games are to short"
"All DLC should be free"

I swear some people want it all. If you want long A grade games then you need to pay as the devs need to get paid. Putting aside the fact that $60 is cheap globally for games how do you expect companies to spead months / years creating quality content for you to enjoy and not get a return for it?

If one of your customers rang your company and complained that they cost to much and your company decided that they would drop their price for their customer but in order to stay operational you had to take a massive pay cut however produce the same quality of product? You'd leave rigth? Now, what if that same philosphy was applied to your entire industry and it was work for less or dont do what you love any more...

What would you do?

I feel better now. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Odracir View Post
So all their work is worth nothing to them besides retail price?

People work for delivering DLC's, but you want everything free?

If you want to buy, do it if not don't whine man..
5 maps.

Though i get all mine for free ;D
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I was under the impression that i'm already paying for DLC hence the 60$ price tag. Considering there is no royalty fee on PC...
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What in the name of - is wrong with people who feel that no extra content should be released after the game's launch. And that releasing that extra content automatically means that the game was not ready at launch? seriously? That's just ridiculous.
They did all the work to develop their first expansion pack before they had even announced BF3. And announced the release of it before BF3 even started selling. This is development time spent on the original game, and then taken out of the game and sold separately to make more money. Go back to bed.

And who else loves that, come the release of Karkand, it will split the player base in half. Either choosing to play the 4 Karkand maps or the 9 original maps. I just want to go to a server and run though the map rotation. Not have to, here we go, alt tab between a web browser and change to a server playing only those 4 maps and then having to go back to the other maps and back and forth... Awesome.
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DLC which isn't free fragments a community so badly. Screw this garbage.
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They did all the work to develop their first expansion pack before they had even announced BF3. And announced the release of it before BF3 even started selling. This is development time spent on the original game, and then taken out of the game and sold separately to make more money. Go back to bed.

And who else loves that, come the release of Karkand, it will split the player base in half. Either choosing to play the 4 Karkand maps or the 9 original maps. I just want to go to a server and run though the map rotation. Not have to, here we go, alt tab between a web browser and change to a server playing only those 4 maps and then having to go back to the other maps and back and forth... Awesome.
yes they started making the Karkand pack before the game was released but it is not finished yet. Including that content would have delayed the game.

Now you could argue that the developing time used for BTK during the development of the main game could have been used to make the main game better or give it more content, but that's not really feasible either. The people who work on the game right before it's launched are doing final touches, bug fixing, QA etc. and are usually specialized for those things. While the guys who are starting to work on the upcoming DLC are artists, map designers etc. who would not otherwise have stuff to do for the game. This will ensure that DLC will take a shorter time to come out and the game's community doesn't get smaller or die in the meantime.

Of course it's not quite as black and white, and people can work on multiple projects and tasks at the time, but especially with a big studio like DICE, employees usually specialize in something and for example putting a QA guy to do concept art is probably a bad idea.

Also BTK will be a similar expansion as Vietnam was for BC2, and that worked out really well. With such huge communities, fragmenting them is not really an issue. We also have to remember that the guys who will play BTK will also always have the option to play vanilla as well.
 
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2142 was a fantastic game.
2143 just makes me all fuzzy inside.

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