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Not everything is going to be in 3d? I still would say you want 1080P. You can't even watch a proper Blu-ray on 720p.
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OCN you guys are ridiculous. It's not your money, so don't tell him not to spend it. If the people he's building it for want to spend 10K on a PC, let them. People have different priorities in life than you do, and telling them that spending X amount on a PC is stupid and not constructive.

OP, the build looks good for the most part, but many people have suggested changing some stuff in the sound department. I would look into that. I'm not in expert in that by any means, so I can't recommend anything there. An aftermarket cooler would be a wise suggestion though. I would get this and some Arctic Silver 5.
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The problem with the z68 FTW is that there is no room for a sound card. I doubt a sound card could fit into that tiny space, unless I'm sorely mistaken.

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PSU: I'm keeping the one I included, I feel like if there needs to be any future upgrades I have that leeway.
If your building a 7.1 surround sound setup, you do not need a sound card. HDMI out from the main GPU and into your surround sound receiver, and then out to the projector. The 580s carry sound over HDMI and it will be in dolby digital or DTS LPCM or whatever Tech they used to make the sound. The only things the 580s will not do are Dolby true HD, and DTS master audio, but i don't think anything you would be using would use that anyway, unless you are going to be watching blu ray movies, and still a sound card would need HDMI for that. The receiver will do a better job then any sound card would of working with the signal. The GPU will send the sound and video out, and let the receiver do the work. No messing with stupid sound card settings, and you will have atuall 7.1 discrete sound the way it was intended.

I really don't know why everyone doesn't do this who uses surround sound. A sound card just gets in the way.
Edited by bevo - 10/30/11 at 2:24pm
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Well, this was an "interesting" read. After going through six pages of this thread a few things have struck me:
  • There's an amazing number of people who have posted without reading. I'd be very surprised if the "client" here wasn't a business who is going to be using this for some sort of demonstration purpose. In that arena, $8K to $10K is not all that much for a machine that is essentially a money maker.
  • I think you got some seriously good advice about looking at 6-core chips. When I read that I took it as 6-core i7s, but I think you should consider the Xeon chips as well. You appear to looking at raw processing power and have concerns about dependability, so why not get something enterprise class? With that budget you should be able to afford it.
  • My only comment about your aesthetic choices (read case, mouse, and keyboard) are going to be along the lines of I hope that case is going to be hidden. For a build of this magnitude, I wouldn't want to see a HAF X unless the space had a very futuristic vide to it. If you don't already have them I might ask for photos of where this is going to be located and find out how much is going to be visible and what the overall aesthetic of the space is. If the HAF X is not a good match for the style, you might want to consider having something made. Again, you have the budget.
  • I don't know those speakers, but I do know that without again knowing the space, choosing speakers may be difficult.
  • About the projectors, you said you were projecting onto a cured screen, so I'm assuming the software that's going to drive the projectors will handle the deformations. Does the publisher of that product have any guidelines on choosing projectors? The ones that hang in the Board room at work are nice, but I wouldn't say that they'd produce an immersion experience, even if you had three of them projecting onto correctly shaped screens. (And the ones that you have listed seem kinda like the white version of cheap Board Room projectors.) You might want to consider something specifically designed for HT use.

It seems like a killer project, but I think you might want to really consider matching hardware specs with performance needs. Simply knowing that you want to create an "immersion" experience without knowing how the projection stream is going to be coming to you or what frame-rates are necessary, makes it hard to be more specific. I suspect you might be a little over on the GPU side, and perhaps a tad under on the projector side. I would also pay close attention to whether or not your box has to be visually part of the user experience, or whether it's a hidden tool.

In all these things the customer's spec should drive your choices; it is after all their dime (ok, I guess technically 80K to 100K dimes.)
Edited by Florida_Dan - 10/30/11 at 2:33pm
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What's the deadline for this build? May as well spend $200 more and wait a month for a SB-E build.

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$8,000 computer and you're going with a HAF X for a case. Please for the love of God, choose a sleeker / more professional case. Something in the high end Corsair series cases and or Lian Li.

Just my two cents.
This. Unless OP is targeting the Alienware crowd.


GTX 580 probably isn't overkill for 720p at 120FPS for all games(read, BF3, Metro 2033, Crysis). But what is this UDK junk? Uses Unreal Engine? Tell me it's just a coincidence that the "Unreal" word is in it. Or maybe Unreal Engine is top-of-the-line for 3D, idk.
 
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But what is this UDK junk? Uses Unreal Engine? Tell me it's just a coincidence that the "Unreal" word is in it. Or maybe Unreal Engine is top-of-the-line for 3D, idk.
UDK

When is this system due? I would wait and see how the Sandy bridge E turn out. Or the Intel Xeon is an option. I would recommend the latter, although I am not an expert in the enterprise category.
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$8000 build:
cpu- i7 3960x
mobo- asus rampageIV extreme
ram- 8x4gb corsair dominator GT 2400mhz
gpu- 4x evga gtx580 classified hydro copper 3gb/upcoming 4x evga gtx680 hydro copper3
cooler- corsair H100
psu- enermax max revo 1500watt (80+ gold)
pc case- silverstone temjin tj11b/corsair obsidian 800d/lian li pc p80
ssd- ocz revo drive r2 480gb
hdd- 2x2tb western digital cavair black
optical drive- asus/lg blu ray burner
monitor- 3x 27" monitor(dell/samsung/nec)
mouse- razer mamba
keyboard- logitech g19
Hope you will love this beast!
Personall I would never spend more than $800 for a build as because technology advances so fast.
Edited by Aniket - 10/30/11 at 2:52pm
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If your building a 7.1 surround sound setup, you do not need a sound card. HDMI out from the main GPU and into your surround sound receiver, and then out to the projector. The 580s carry sound over HDMI and it will be in dolby digital or DTS LPCM or whatever Tech they used to make the sound. The only things the 580s will not do are Dolby true HD, and DTS master audio, but i don't think anything you would be using would use that anyway, unless you are going to be watching blu ray movies, and still a sound card would need HDMI for that. The receiver will do a better job then any sound card would of working with the signal. The GPU will send the sound and video out, and let the receiver do the work. No messing with stupid sound card settings, and you will have atuall 7.1 discrete sound the way it was intended.

I really don't know why everyone doesn't do this who uses surround sound. A sound card just gets in the way.
3D Vision can't run with HDMI. It has to be dual-link DVI.
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Originally Posted by Florida_Dan View Post
Well, this was an "interesting" read. After going through six pages of this thread a few things have struck me:
  • There's an amazing number of people who have posted without reading.
  • I think you got some seriously good advice about looking at 6-core chips. When I read that I took it as 6-core i7s, but I think you should consider the Xeon chips as well. You appear to looking at raw processing power and have concerns about dependability, so why not get something enterprise class? With that budget you should be able to afford it.
  • My only comment about your aesthetic choices (read case, mouse, and keyboard) are going to be along the lines of I hope that case is going to be hidden. For a build of this magnitude, I wouldn't want to see a HAF X unless the space had a very futuristic vide to it. If you don't already have them I might ask for photos of where this is going to be located and find out how much is going to be visible and what the overall aesthetic of the space is. If the HAF X is not a good match for the style, you might want to consider having something made. Again, you have the budget.
  • I don't know those speakers, but I do know that without again knowing the space, choosing speakers may be difficult.
  • About the projectors, you said you were projecting onto a cured screen, so I'm assuming the software that's going to drive the projectors will handle the deformations. Does the publisher of that product have any guidelines on choosing projectors? The ones that hang in the Board room at work are nice, but I wouldn't say that they'd produce an immersion experience, even if you had three of them projecting onto correctly shaped screens. (And the ones that you have listed seem kinda like the white version of cheap Board Room projectors.) You might want to consider something specifically designed for HT use.

It seems like a killer project, but I think you might want to really consider matching hardware specs with performance needs. Simply knowing that you want to create an "immersion" experience without knowing how the projection stream is going to be coming to you or what frame-rates are necessary, makes it hard to be more specific. I suspect you might be a little over on the GPU side, and perhaps a tad under on the projector side. I would also pay close attention to whether or not your box has to be visually part of the user experience, or whether it's a hidden tool.

In all these things the customer's spec should drive your choices; it is after all their dime (ok, I guess technically 80K to 100K dimes.)
We will be using the Nthusim software to project onto a curved screen. What we really want is to completely cover their field of vision with the simulation.
    
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3D Vision can't run with HDMI. It has to be dual-link DVI.

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Then couldn't you just use the onboard sound on your CPU? Most of them come with an optical 7.1 audio out. You will have to have a receiver to push the speakers, so a sound card just seems pointless, unless you have no other means to get the signal to the receiver, then just a 20$ sound card would be as good as a 200$ one.
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OP, how about a h100 cooler. Also, nothing is truly maintenance free. If it is sold as maintenance free, that just means you can't fix it when it breaks.
 
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