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I see people listing their sound card and using a 5.1 or 7.1 surround speaker setup with their PC. Why use a sound card with that setup, if you have a current GPU that has HDMI out and a monitor that has HDMI. The GPU carries 8 channel lossless LPCM audio over HDMI, along with DTS, and dolby digital, so why use a sound card?

Am I missing something here, or does it work different than I think?

I have talked about this on a few other threads, but figured I would make one just for this, as people seem to mostly ignore my comment s about it.
Edited by bevo - 10/30/11 at 3:08pm
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I have headphones when I want to game quietly, which is why I need a decent sound card.
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Originally Posted by bevo View Post
I see people listing their sound card and using a 5.1 or 7.1 surrond setup with their PC. Why use a sound card with that setup, if you have a current GPU that has HDMI out and a monitor that has HDMI. The GPU carries 8 channel lossless LPCM audio over HDMI, along with DTS, and dolby digital, so why use a sound card?

Am I missing something here, or does it work different than I think?

I have talked about this on a few other threads, but figured I would make one just for this, as people seem to mostly ignore my comment s about it.
You are quite correct, when I was using my Titanium HD the sound was inferior to the HDMI coming from my 5870 to my Harman Kardon AVR 2600. The headphone jack on my AVR is also superior to the sound card. But most don't have AVRs so they need them as they are huge improvements over onboard.
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Originally Posted by JMCB View Post
I have headphones when I want to game quietly, which is why I need a decent sound card.
Same applies for me. I need the headphone amp on my card.
Also because I want cleaner sound.
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Same applies for me. I need the headphone amp on my card.
Also because I want cleaner sound.
Why not just use the one coming out of your reciever. As far as cleaner sound, the sound over HDMI through the video card, is perfectly lossless LPCM audio. It doesn't get any better then that. Plus there is nothing in the way like a sound card to mess up the sound.
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You are quite correct, when I was using my Titanium HD the sound was inferior to the HDMI coming from my 5870 to my Harman Kardon AVR 2600. The headphone jack on my AVR is also superior to the sound card. But most don't have AVRs so they need them as they are huge improvements over onboard.
Wonder why they just don't buy a cheap second hand or refurbished AVR.
To me it seems it would be tons better then any sound cards out there, either for speakers or headphones.
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Originally Posted by bevo View Post
Why not just use the one coming out of your reciever. As far as cleaner sound, the sound over HDMI through the video card, is perfectly lossless LPCM audio. It doesn't get any better then that. Plus there is nothing in the way like a sound card to mess up the sound.
I don't have that.
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I was just trying to make sure I was doing the right thing and wasn't missing anything because of the lack of a sound card. it just seems weird that anyone would spend over 100$ on a sound card when an AVR second hand or refurbished would be alot better, for speakers and headphones.
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Wonder why they just don't buy a cheap second hand or refurbished AVR.
To me it seems it would be tons better then any sound cards out there, either for speakers or headphones.
To be honest we all spend enough on our PC's as it is so I don't really blame people for not buying an AVR. Besides some also dont have the room for the speakers and AVR. And as an owner of HD 555's and Ath-M50 I can tell you that for some games and at certain times they can make a game even BETTER.

I work grave-ish hours myself so when I get home at 4am I can't really turn everything on and have my Bic F-12 and R50's waking everyone up, but put on headphones and Dead Space becomes even awesomer (sounds so good I even make up words)

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I was just trying to make sure I was doing the right thing and wasn't missing anything because of the lack of a sound card. it just seems weird that anyone would spend over 100$ on a sound card when an AVR second hand or refurbished would be alot better, for speakers and headphones.
Btw of all the AVR's in my price point at the time I bought mine, had I not gone with HK my second choice was a Denon as they have the second best sound for the price
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I thought the audio coming from the hdmi on video cards were only pass throughs. Video cards dont have thier own sound cards or do they?
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