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WASHINGTON (AP) — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius) warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley, and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.
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Well between pollution and several more billion more people on earth since the 50's, it only makes sense if the climate is a bit warmer.
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The simple existence of global warming--that the earth's mean temperature is getting higher--is not debated by anyone who has a damn idea what they're on about. What's debated is what's *causing* global warming, and even more hotly debated is what should be done about it, if anything.



That's the facts.
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The simple existence of global warming--that the earth's mean temperature is getting higher--is not debated by anyone who has a damn idea what they're on about. What's debated is what's *causing* global warming, and even more hotly debated is what should be done about it, if anything.



That's the facts.
QFT. There has been global warming since the last ice age. Why do people insist that the climate we have now is the only "correct" climate? Temps will rise and fall forever and there ain't a dang thing we can do about it...
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Its not that the earth isn't rising in temperature.
It's the fact that we just ended a mini ice age in the 1800's.
The world was a lot cooler back then.
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This topic is likely to get locked in the same fashion as the other topic entitled [BBC] - Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study.

Here's some reading material for those who believe in the 'Global Warming' aka Climategate myth:

Global Warming gets the Cold Freeze
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8583

Global Warming: "Fixing the Climate Data around the Policy"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=16339

75 Reasons to be Skeptical of "Global Warming"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17769

Global Warming 'Hysteria'
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8253

Global Warming Censored: How the Major Networks Silence the Debate on Climate Change
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8621

Global Cooling is Here
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=10783

Scientists abandon global warming 'lie'
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=11383

Global Warming or Global Cooling? A New Trend in Climate Alarmism
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=14504

Global Warming or Global Freezing: is the ice really melting?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=15356

Global Warming: A Convenient Lie
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=5086

Edited by 45nm - 10/30/11 at 3:44pm
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Until any modeling data includes solar cycles, magnetic field fluctuation cycles, volcanic activity, and whatever else I'm forgetting, the human impact on these events can't be quantified...

Humans are so egocentric, they have to believe that they're capable of affecting cosmic events.

I am not yet a believer.

However, I do believe we can pollute our civilization into extinction. Life will still exist. Humanity may not survive.

Nobody really knows even though a lot of people like to pretend they do.
Edited by xenophobe - 10/30/11 at 3:37pm
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Until any modeling data includes solar cycles, magnetic field fluctuation cycles, volcanic activity, and whatever else I'm forgetting, the human impact on these events can't be quantified...
Do you really think that climate scientists, who have spent years and years as grad students and postdocs mastering their field, have not even considered such ideas?

Here are some good links to start:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...05/start-here/
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Citing one source is a good way to get laughed at.
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Citing one source is a good way to get laughed at.
Different Authors and contributors. Just because it has in your view 'one source' does not necessarily make it so. Infact that website I provided receives daily contributions from different authors and websites so it is in fact a database of articles from various sources/authors. As the saying goes 'Never judge a book by it's cover'.
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