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I did some temperature testing with my modded CPU fan position.

Stabilized idle temperatures, sitting at the desktop for an hour or two:

System: 45C
CPU: 42C
GPU: 15C
Ambient: 64F or ~18C
idletemps.jpg



CPU load temperatures, 1 hour of OCCT:

System: 57C
CPU: 66C
GPU: 44C
Ambient: 64F or ~18C
cpuloadtemps.jpg

So you can see at load the system gets pretty toasty. Besides the idle GPU temps, these are within reason given the space constraints of the case but I'll see if I can do better with the new fans. The GPU temperatures must be off by quite a bit since at idle SpeedFan is reporting lower than ambient.

Yah who knows what the gpu really is. Amd always seem to be wacky with temps. I would think under normal conditions they will be much better. I think adding some extra fans will help though. I'm waiting to see the improvement you get.
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Yah who knows what the gpu really is. Amd always seem to be wacky with temps. I would think under normal conditions they will be much better. I think adding some extra fans will help though. I'm waiting to see the improvement you get.
I just did some more temp testing. I didn't know how much lower the temps were with the mod, wow, the data speaks for itself.

Fan Placement (Stock)
Note: This is only to show were the fan was placed. The temperature testing was done with the drive cage and case cover on, as it would be in a real world scenario.
img4727s.jpg


Stabilized Idle Temperatures (Stock Fan Placement)
Test: Sitting at the desktop for an hour or two.
System: 50C (vs 45C or 5C lower)
CPU: 48C (vs 42C or 6C lower)
GPU: 22C (vs 15C or 7C lower)
Ambient: 64F or ~18C
idletempscpufanontopofh.jpg


CPU Load Temperatures (Stock Fan Placement)
Test: 1 hour of OCCT.
System: 69C (vs 57C or 12C lower)
CPU: 81C (vs 66C or 15C lower)
GPU: 59C (vs 44C or 15C lower)
Ambient: 64F or ~18C
cpuloadtempscpufanontop.jpg


At idle the modded fan position lowers temps by 5-7C and 12-15C at load, pretty impressive and not bad for moving the fan over a few inches with a slight angle.thumb.gif
Edited by Ben the OCer - 11/26/11 at 2:29pm
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I got the Blu-Ray drive and installed it. So far I really like it. The only problem I had was the drive would shoot the disc right out of the drive, but I fixed that by adding a soft piece of foam to the cover. I have a few Blu-Ray movies I can use to test it but don't yet have the software to play it. So I tested with some DVDs.

The CA10N Blu-Ray drive was manufactured in June 2010, which isn't bad considering I paid only $44.95.
img4737c.jpg

The drive did not come with a faceplate, which is fine since the Habey case includes a slot load drive cover.
img4738u.jpg

Laptop optical drives use a regular size SATA data connector but have a smaller power connector. That's why I needed to buy a special cable for it.
img4739y.jpg
img4740b.jpg

The bottom of the drive actually has a clear cover so you can see the internal circuitry.
img4742m.jpg

Here you can see my modded drive cover, so the drive wouldn't shoot the discs out.
img4745ua.jpg
img4748d.jpg

The drive is very small so it doesn't stick out at all and is actually recessed in the drive cage a little.
img4750e.jpg

Inception DVD to test out the drive (it's a Blu-Ray and DVD combo pack).
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Any plans for some gaming benches? I am curious as to how the games will run with the underclocked and undervolted CPU.
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Any plans for some gaming benches? I am curious as to how the games will run with the underclocked and undervolted CPU.
Any specific games you want me to try? I tried Crysis and it ran pretty smooth on medium (I think the res was 1920x1080). The reason I didn't test many games is because gaming pushes the limits of the 60W power adapter, plus the 32GB SSD has limited space.
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Any specific games you want me to try? I tried Crysis and it ran pretty smooth on medium (I think the res was 1920x1080). The reason I didn't test many games is because gaming pushes the limits of the 60W power adapter, plus the 32GB SSD has limited space.

No, that gives me a good enough idea of what you're getting out of it. You think there's any chance you could find a replacement, higher wattage, power brick for it, or is it some proprietary connector? I don't understand why they didn't just include a ~100W power supply, seeing as how the internals can take up to 120W, that would make that little case even more attractive, if you could keep it cool.
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No, that gives me a good enough idea of what you're getting out of it. You think there's any chance you could find a replacement, higher wattage, power brick for it, or is it some proprietary connector? I don't understand why they didn't just include a ~100W power supply, seeing as how the internals can take up to 120W, that would make that little case even more attractive, if you could keep it cool.
I agree, it would have made more sense for Habey to include a 120W power adapter, to better match with the internal PSU circuitry. Somebody on another forum used an HP Envy 17 power adapter and PicoPSU, so it's probably possible. The power connector seems pretty standard shaped but I wouldn't want to buy a new power adapter unless I knew it would work. I might have to look into that.
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I agree, it would have made more sense for Habey to include a 120W power adapter, to better match with the internal PSU circuitry. Somebody on another forum used an HP Envy 17 power adapter and PicoPSU, so it's probably possible. The power connector seems pretty standard shaped but I wouldn't want to buy a new power adapter unless I knew it would work. I might have to look into that.

The Habey one is 12v at 5A and is 60W. If you can find one that is 12v and 5a, with a higher wattage, there's always the possibility of splicing the connector from the 60W adapter onto the higher wattage one, it should work and be fairly straightforward. The trouble would be finding a 12v 5a adapter that is ~120w.
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The Habey one is 12v at 5A and is 60W. If you can find one that is 12v and 5a, with a higher wattage, there's always the possibility of splicing the connector from the 60W adapter onto the higher wattage one, it should work and be fairly straightforward. The trouble would be finding a 12v 5a adapter that is ~120w.
Interesting idea about splicing the old connector to a new higher watt adapter but I don't think I'd be comfortable doing that. Unless I'm mistaken doesn't Volts x Amps = Watts. That's why the power adapter provides 60W. It's impossible for a different adapter with the same 12 volt and 5 amp rating to have more watts (12 x 5 is always going to equal 60). I'm no expert on power supplies but that's my understanding of it. For example, the HP Envy 17 power adapter I was talking about has a rating of 18.5V and 6.5A which comes out to 120.25W.
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Yes, Watts = Volts x Amps (or any combination...) MOST, 12v plugs are the same size but not all (some dicks make their stuff more proprietary).
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