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I'm not saying this is true or that its a real bottle neck. I'm just bored and wanted to start a topic to get peoples thoughts on it so please don't hate.

I was just curious if NVIDIA bottleneck their 570 with only 1.280 or their 580 with 1.5?

There are some 560 that have 2gb and a 570 with 2.5 and a 580 with 3 but those seam a lot higher in price compared to a 6870,6950,6970 2gb versions?

Just want your guys thoughts on this and like I said not trying to start a argument or anything. I'm an NVIDIA fan boy so don't think I'm talking down NVIDIA lol
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Nvidia cards imo, are targeted at the greater portion of the market, people at 1200p and less.

You don't need a ton of vram at those resolutions, and nvidia handles AA better than AMD cards.

That said AMD cards do really well at higher resolutions.

Oh and Nvidia went with a new design to help them in servers/workstations, AMD cards are still pretty much just graphics cards while Nvidia has CUDA.
    
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I think, with this being the first generation of cards really powerful enough to handle massive resolutions, Nvidia may have overlooked the HD+/surround audience with their reference designs.

AMD has been pushing Eyefinity for a while now, so it's no surprise they were prepared to support those types of resolutions.

I'd expect Nvidia to rectify it with Kepler though.
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annddd video card allocate from your normal ram when needed. If you have a ton of ram it shouldn't be a problem even if you are doing higher res than HD or Multi-monitors.

I even looked at replacing my 1.5 gb with a 3 gb, but after looking at benchmarks and literally almost no convincing increases I was more than happy to save my money. I wouldn't even recommend a 3GB over a 1.5 to anybody really ( no offense ).
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I think, with this being the first generation of cards really powerful enough to handle massive resolutions, Nvidia may have overlooked the HD+/surround audience with their reference designs.

AMD has been pushing Eyefinity for a while now, so it's no surprise they were prepared to support those types of resolutions.

I'd expect Nvidia to rectify it with Kepler though.
This.

Nvidia is indeed a little more focused on the single-monitor crowd. AMD/ATI cards do indeed generally have a stack of VRAM lying around, which does scale better in high-res setups. (i.e. multi-monitor)

And Booty Warrior makes an excellent point. AMD has been pushing Eyefinity for some time now. Naturally, they possess greater reason for higher VRAM.
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Well Nvidia thought about your question and thats why they released the 3GB gtx 580.
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All ATI cards are better than their NVIDIA counterparts by a substantial amount 30-60% at antiosphic filtering, witch if I'm not mistaken is used for creating better detail at further distances?

Resource is hwcompare.com
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I think, with this being the first generation of cards really powerful enough to handle massive resolutions, Nvidia may have overlooked the HD+/surround audience with their reference designs.

AMD has been pushing Eyefinity for a while now, so it's no surprise they were prepared to support those types of resolutions.

I'd expect Nvidia to rectify it with Kepler though.
^ It really is this, but don't worry next year I'm sure we'll get hit with 6GB and 4GB cards from both vendors
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