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I am sure this have been covered many times, but I didn't want to read 828 pages of thread listings.

Two questions?

Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1850 D1225C12B5AP-15 does it work as well in pull as in push mode?

Would pairing this fan with a CM 1100rpm fan (old red led front fan from a Cosmos S) be as bad an idea as I think? My assumption has always been that push-pull fans must be identical.
The 120 rad is a high fin density type. Love the red led fan, but not the style of the GT.

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Well, what is your priority on this build?

Push vs. pull is an old debate, and it's been shown that they're near-as-makes-no-difference the same, in most setups. Pull has been shown to be more effective by a small bit, though.

So, if your ultimate goal is to achieve the highest possible performance and efficient use of hardware, set the Gentle Typhoon to pull through your high density rad, and forget the red LED fan. The GT pulling through the rad will provide maximum laminar airflow (wikipedia the technical terms) across the copper fins and that is what you want: high volumes of laminar (the opposite of turbulent) air moving through the fins to pull as much heat from the rad as possible.

That said, if your rad is truly high-density, the pressure required to get air through it would kind of limit you to a push configuration. It's hard to say, really, without some testing.

If your goal is aesthetic, go ahead and use the red LED fan. It won't perform as well as the GT, but what you lose in performance (we're talking a few degrees C, here, nothing dramatic unless the LED fan is truly a piece of garbage in which case it doesn't belong in your computer) you'll gain in sexiness.

What I wouldn't advise is sandwiching the rad between two fans with totally different characteristics with regard to airflow and static pressure. This will create tons of turbulent air in the rad, which doesn't draw heat from the fins anywhere near as well as laminar (smooth) airflow and it'll create noise from all the buffeting. Also, you'll need to power 2x as many fans for about a 5% increase in performance, totally not worth it IMO.

tl;dr: GT for performance, red LED fan for looks. Performance won't really change, just don't waste your time sabotaging good cable management by doubling up on fans for no real gains in performance.
Edited by lowfiwhiteguy - 10/30/11 at 11:42pm
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Thanks for the quick reply.

My goal is to improve the overall loop performance so i can overclock my gpu. A Guru3d article I read saw a 10C rise in gpu temp due to the oc, so I am assuming my water temp would go up (but not by 10C) and ultimately the cpu temp.
I don't have room to add more fans to the 280mm rad, nor do I want to replace the ones I have since they are fairly quiet. So I thought I would try to up the performance of the 120 rad. I currently have push-pull on it, but using identical fans.
Thanks for the advice!
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http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...l#post15469713

These are some old results. One thing to note is if you want to increase performance a shroud would be a good addition.
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I would urge you to completely forgo the LED fan and just rely entirely on GT's.

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Yeah don't bother with that 1100rpm fan, if anything cut it up and use it as a shroud.

For 1850rpm you'll be a bit better with push rather than pull, but it's not a biggy.
     
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