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Shortly in the house will be 5 computers, and I have feeling that without NAS or media server cannot continue any more... Because I was always relaying on internal hard drives, when things start coming to server... I am again decided ask for help.
I am looking for –
Server about 2- 4Tb of storage space ( Size of HDD can be added later, when prizes on HDD will settle down)
Able to stream via WI-Fi router (Linksys E 4200), Bluray media.
And be cheap as possible....
If that achievable – help with the components and setup please.
Many thanks.
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Hey mate, I'm not gonna enter into a lot of details for a lack of time (work...), but essentially what you're looking for isn't a media server per-se, but more like a file server because you need to access files from many rigs (be that movies) that are placed i a central location.

Since you want to stream Bluray the main limitation will be network speed. You'll have a very hard time streaming uncompressed 1080p Bluray to all rigs simultaneously, but 2-3 H264 encoded files can be streamed easily thru WiFi; for more you'll need GigE.

Second thing is storage speed, though this may not be a problem until you use GigE and are close to saturate its bandwidth. For RAM imho 2GB is enough, though for the prices you might as well get 4GB. The processor is not essential as it's not gonna do much processing except to serve files to the NIC - any would do with a preference towards more cores even at lower speed per core - Athlon II x4 comes to mind or Core i3. The board should have as many SATA ports as possible so that you won't get limited, you can find some cheap AMD 870 boards with 6-8 SATA3 ports.

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Well, only 2 computers will be steaming media, that my daughter PC and new build HTPC, rest of computers are designed for work and just have to able share the files.

I require precise details, starting from components of server itself and finishing with sharing files and what I need for that.
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could we get a bit more information.
you said "as cheap as possible" but what price range range, or what is the max of the budget?
RAID, Have you been looking at raiding those drives for some protection?
will the file-server be doing any other tasks then handling files and streaming media?
what operating system do you have in mind? Linux, Windows?
    
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Originally Posted by Beezie View Post
could we get a bit more information.
you said "as cheap as possible" but what price range range, or what is the max of the budget?
RAID, Have you been looking at raiding those drives for some protection?
will the file-server be doing any other tasks then handling files and streaming media?
what operating system do you have in mind? Linux, Windows?
I will try to give more info -
- "as cheap as possible" - if system will cost for me 100 dollars, I am more then happy, but have to do the job, that mean in not realistic. Max budget... well, if it will cost more then 2000 - I will forget about server
- I have RAID in all my computers, but because I never build up server.. I require help from you, what type of RAID its the best, or its not necessary at all.
- Server will be only for storage, but have to be able stream files up to 30Gb in 2 computers simultaneously. File types - media, and AutoCad, ArchiCad formats ( I was mentioned about Bluray, but that will be not often and if I go for that, probably not be any another file stream in that moment. ( most media will come from torrents - server have to be friendly with Bittorrent.
I am not sure about file transfer method, I know that cable its the most used, but did any chance that my WI-Fi router (Linksys E 4200) can do the job ? computers in different rooms and install cables will give headache for me...
- I am familiar only with Windows, that why I am asking for help is well, if anything better like windows server, just point me in right direction for the server OC.
Like I was mentioned before, that will be my first attempt to deal with streaming and have separate storage place outside PC.
Sorry for my English - I try to be understandable ...


OK, I will post my basic setup - That will work for server setup ?, if yes, then what I need more, and if not - what have to be changed...

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Edited by Doomas - 10/31/11 at 10:00pm
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Anybody ?

Well, looks that I have to skip that project. I was expecting that low budget system have to do the job...
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I'm not as familiar with SandyBridge, but if you're looking for a low-power/low-cost rig you seem to be on the right track. Some things to consider which are specific to a "server" are data redundancy/protection and whether or not you need to be able to access the server remotely (using it without a keyboard, mouse & monitor directly attached, or "headless").

When you're spec'ing out your hardware, to account for data redundancy you'll need at least 1+ drives for "parity" (or similar), meaning that if you want 4TB usable you'd need to buy 3x 2TB drives. I'd also recommend putting your OS on a separate physical drive from your storage, to reduce the risk of failure and make increasing your storage capacity easier in the future.

If you're just looking to share files on the network you can do that with Ubuntu, or any of a wide variety of Linux distros with something called Samba. There's a sticky at the top of the forums about configuring webmin tools to operate Ubuntu headless-ly.

Anyways, I'm not the most knowledgeable on these topics so hopefully others can chime in.
    
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Guys, just relax, I want to build simple home server that it... 4TB for me is more than I need, for securing the data - raid 5 is ideal, but for the cost of HDD in this days I skipping that for now. I need speks of hardware - that it.
I thinking also about one of them... http://www.skytech.lt/isorines-duome...0&pagesize=500
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ROCCAT KOVA ROCCAT Sota Granular Black Auzentech Bravura 
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Intel i3 2100 Box, 3,10GHz ASROCK H67M-GE/HT, mATX SAPPHIRE ATI HD6570 1GB GDDR3/HM EXCELERAM DDR3 SDRAM,2+2GB,1333MHz(PC3-10600),9... 
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OCZ Solid 3 Series 60GB SATA3 WD GREEN 2000GB 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 Lite-On combo Blu-ray 12xBDROM, 16xDVD ROM, 8xD... Scythe Big Shuriken 
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Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Rii II Touch N7 Wireless Mini PC Keyboard Touch... Seasonic M12II-520 520W 80 Plus Bronze SilverStone Grandia SST-GD05B 
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Get a Gigabyte Mobo, a Intel Atom, 2 GB DDR3, Radeon HD 5 series card and Gigabit ethernet. Just get a case, 400 Watt PSU and add HD or SSDs.

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Main Rig.
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Battlefield 2 review.
Battlefield 2 PC Game EA
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Bulldozer FX4100 Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 MSI 7770 Kingston Hyper X | 2 x 2 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD 2 TB  LiteON DVD/CD R-W Drive AMD Standard cooler Windows 7 Ultimate 
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32' Luxor Full HD TV Microsoft comfort curce Antec 450 Watt OcUK Value case 
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Battlefield 2 review.
Battlefield 2 PC Game EA
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Bulldozer FX4100 Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2 MSI 7770 Kingston Hyper X | 2 x 2 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD 2 TB  LiteON DVD/CD R-W Drive AMD Standard cooler Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
32' Luxor Full HD TV Microsoft comfort curce Antec 450 Watt OcUK Value case 
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Why did I need GPU for server.. ? I do not understand that... Probably I just buy NAS server - that more cheaper and have to do the job, only with one... ?
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HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3930K 4.6 Ghz ASUS ROG RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Asus GTX670 OC G.Skill 16GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SSD OCZ Vertex 4 256GB WD Black 3.5'' 1TB SONY ODD DVDRW 24x, SATA, DL, RAM, Light scribe... Custom Water Cooling 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Win 7 Ultimate 64Bit Microsoft Sidewinder x4 NEXUS PSU 1100W 13.5CM ATX 80+GOLD CAB.M CM STORM TROOPER FULL TOWER 
MouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master CM Storm Inferno Custom  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 4.2Ghz Asus P6TD Deluxe SAPHHIRE 5850 TOXIC 2GB 6Gb OCZ 1800Mhz DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2x 80Gb SSD, 1Tb WD SATA3 OPTIARC Custom Water Cooling  Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
SAMSUNG PX2370 RAZER ARCTOSA CHIEFTEC 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
ROCCAT KOVA ROCCAT Sota Granular Black Auzentech Bravura 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i3 2100 Box, 3,10GHz ASROCK H67M-GE/HT, mATX SAPPHIRE ATI HD6570 1GB GDDR3/HM EXCELERAM DDR3 SDRAM,2+2GB,1333MHz(PC3-10600),9... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Solid 3 Series 60GB SATA3 WD GREEN 2000GB 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 Lite-On combo Blu-ray 12xBDROM, 16xDVD ROM, 8xD... Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Rii II Touch N7 Wireless Mini PC Keyboard Touch... Seasonic M12II-520 520W 80 Plus Bronze SilverStone Grandia SST-GD05B 
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Red October
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Work horse.
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HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3930K 4.6 Ghz ASUS ROG RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Asus GTX670 OC G.Skill 16GB DDR3 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SSD OCZ Vertex 4 256GB WD Black 3.5'' 1TB SONY ODD DVDRW 24x, SATA, DL, RAM, Light scribe... Custom Water Cooling 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Win 7 Ultimate 64Bit Microsoft Sidewinder x4 NEXUS PSU 1100W 13.5CM ATX 80+GOLD CAB.M CM STORM TROOPER FULL TOWER 
MouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master CM Storm Inferno Custom  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 930 4.2Ghz Asus P6TD Deluxe SAPHHIRE 5850 TOXIC 2GB 6Gb OCZ 1800Mhz DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2x 80Gb SSD, 1Tb WD SATA3 OPTIARC Custom Water Cooling  Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
SAMSUNG PX2370 RAZER ARCTOSA CHIEFTEC 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
ROCCAT KOVA ROCCAT Sota Granular Black Auzentech Bravura 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i3 2100 Box, 3,10GHz ASROCK H67M-GE/HT, mATX SAPPHIRE ATI HD6570 1GB GDDR3/HM EXCELERAM DDR3 SDRAM,2+2GB,1333MHz(PC3-10600),9... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Solid 3 Series 60GB SATA3 WD GREEN 2000GB 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 Lite-On combo Blu-ray 12xBDROM, 16xDVD ROM, 8xD... Scythe Big Shuriken 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Rii II Touch N7 Wireless Mini PC Keyboard Touch... Seasonic M12II-520 520W 80 Plus Bronze SilverStone Grandia SST-GD05B 
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