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maybe you have good ambient temps. we live in a warm country.

and his i7 870 was and still at 1.30V only. i dont know if he installed the H60 correctly or applied the tim properly. but he said he had leaks on his H60. maybe that affected the cooling performance?

a h60 should never leak. if it does, it is damaged (or potentially a fake knockoff).

Either case would support it performing poorly.
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a h60 should never leak. if it does, it is damaged (or potentially a fake knockoff).

Either case would support it performing poorly.

i think he did something that kinked the hose too much and that maybe caused the leak.
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i think he did something that kinked the hose too much and that maybe caused the leak.

Kinking the hose alone will cause poor results. That liquid needs to flow to move heat. Never mind the fact it also caused a leak (therefore allowing air into the system and causing worse temps). Besides, how did he fix the leak? They don't just go away on their own.
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Kinking the hose alone will cause poor results. That liquid needs to flow to move heat. Never mind the fact it also caused a leak (therefore allowing air into the system and causing worse temps). Besides, how did he fix the leak? They don't just go away on their own.

he patched something to it. but i dont know the exact thing he used.

he's not really knowledgeable when it comes to this. he's just acting like one. and now he's even planning to buy the Thermaltake Frio to replace the H60. i said that its not going to be an upgrade and will not improve his temps. correct me if im wrong.
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Originally Posted by croy;15554099 
he patched something to it. but i dont know the exact thing he used.

he's not really knowledgeable when it comes to this. he's just acting like one. and now he's even planning to buy the Thermaltake Frio to replace the H60. i said that its not going to be an upgrade and will not improve his temps. correct me if im wrong.

That would be a substantial downgrade. I'd suggest he RMA the H60 but if his attempt to repair it has permanently modified it, they wont accept it. Shame, since Corsair actually has an excellent RMA policy and service.

If he wants an actual upgrade, look into a H80 or H100, or even a high end tower cooler from Noctura, Thermalright, Prolimatech, or Phantek, all of which are far superior to anything put out by Thermaltake.
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Originally Posted by Zero4549;15554148 
That would be a substantial downgrade. I'd suggest he RMA the H60 but if his attempt to repair it has permanently modified it, they wont accept it. Shame, since Corsair actually has an excellent RMA policy and service.

If he wants an actual upgrade, look into a H80 or H100, or even a high end tower cooler from Noctura, Thermalright, Prolimatech, or Phantek, all of which are far superior to anything put out by Thermaltake.

thanks for that. i thought i was wrong. lol. i know that the H60 is a decent WC thats why i said that its not worth replacing it with the Frio.

the reason why he wants to change his cooling because he also wants to reach the 4GHz clock for his i7. i said its possible if proper cooling is what he got. but he just cant accept the fact that i7's are warm CPU's (correct me again if im wrong) and he lives in a very warm place. maybe 30-35*C ambient.

also just to add. is it better if the H60 is intake?
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The intake over exhaust argument for the H60 and similar devices is due to the fact that it will being in cool air over the radiator, giving the cpu itself the most cooling possible as opposed to pulling hot air out of the case into the radiator.

That said, it it will also introduce all the cpu's heat into the case, so you need strong exhaust elsewhere to keep it from heating up the rest of your components as a side effect.

So it really depends on your airflow setup and if its more important to you to keep the cpu cool, or the rest of the case.


As for the i7's, they're warm chips, but not unreasonably. They're not Pentium 4's or overclocked Bulldozers. 4GHz is a reasonably obtainable overclock with adequate cooling, but as you pointed out, conventional air and liquid cooling can only cool down to ambient in the absolute best case, The h60 is far from the best possible case, so if you're starting with high ambient, you're unlikely to get spectacular results with it or ANY conventional cooler.

His particular mobo or cpu might just be poor performers as well. Even the best overclocker can only as far as heat and chip quality allow. Not all processors are made equal.

So in short, 4ghz is certainly possible under some conditions, but it MAY or may not be possible with his particular setup. At any rate, a Frio will not help him reach that goal over a h60 certainly.
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The intake over exhaust argument for the H60 and similar devices is due to the fact that it will being in cool air over the radiator, giving the cpu itself the most cooling possible as opposed to pulling hot air out of the case into the radiator.

That said, it it will also introduce all the cpu's heat into the case, so you need strong exhaust elsewhere to keep it from heating up the rest of your components as a side effect.

So it really depends on your airflow setup and if its more important to you to keep the cpu cool, or the rest of the case.


As for the i7's, they're warm chips, but not unreasonably. They're not Pentium 4's or overclocked Bulldozers. 4GHz is a reasonably obtainable overclock with adequate cooling, but as you pointed out, conventional air and liquid cooling can only cool down to ambient in the absolute best case, The h60 is far from the best possible case, so if you're starting with high ambient, you're unlikely to get spectacular results with it or ANY conventional cooler.

His particular mobo or cpu might just be poor performers as well. Even the best overclocker can only as far as heat and chip quality allow. Not all processors are made equal.

So in short, 4ghz is certainly possible under some conditions, but it MAY or may not be possible with his particular setup. At any rate, a Frio will not help him reach that goal over a h60 certainly.

his case is a Antec DF-35 with top exhaust. would it be better if he just set the H60 intake, then let the top exhaust fan do the pushing of hot air out of the case?

his mobo is P7P55D-E Deluxe btw. so i think it'll be fine overclocking with it. i also even said that every chip is different. he's just having a hard time believing things.
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his case is a Antec DF-35 with top exhaust. would it be better if he just set the H60 intake, then let the top exhaust fan do the pushing of hot air out of the case?

his mobo is P7P55D-E Deluxe btw. so i think it'll be fine overclocking with it. i also even said that every chip is different. he's just having a hard time believing things.

Yes intake would work well in that case. That said, he's still limited by his high ambient temp, and broken cooler.
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