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Thanks alot for the input guys. So there isn't any other way of wiring it to work with my controller? Like in the video as shown. I mean I jumped the gun a while ago when I purchased this controller thinking since I have enough watts per channel to do fans and put each pump on each of its own channel it would work fine and the fact that I can see the RPM/Temp/Volts on display, overall a great product if I can get the pumps working on this. But realizing theres a way to mod it for that to work w/out doing any damage. Also I've read that the PWM headers on the MB can only handle a few watts. I don't even think one will hold up let alone 2. I'll think I might damage the PWM Fan header. I'am down for anything but not the PWM on the MB route. I would love to use the 3 pin fan controller I'am stuck with now.
I have the same motherboard & pump and I can tell you that they work great together. Also MCP35X pumps don't take their power from motherboard header but from a separate Molex connector. And Sabertooth X58 fan headers can handle 2A, that's 24 W. I'm running four GT AP-15's of my radiators on one chassis fan header. On this board Speedfan can adjust cpu fan header, nb fan header and chassis fan headers.
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I'm controlling 2 x 35X through the motherboard with Fan Xpert. I have it set to 21% (lowest it goes) ramping up to 50% when the temps hit 50ºC. That way the pumps are virtually silent most of the time and pretty quiet at 50% where the pumps are at about 4000rpm which is about 90% of their rated speed.

It's been totally reliable up to now. One key thing that isn't obvious is that you need to have 'Qfan Help' in the Startup Folder as well as 'Asus Qfan3' for it to work properly.
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post #13 of 25
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I know I should've reworded myself from the beginning but was a bit hungover the night before XD but what I really wanted to ask for was help on setting up the pumps on the controller and how I would go about that. Whether its wiring or not etc etc. I know I can go and do it through the MB but would feel better if I had it externally on my Lamptron. I didn't buy this controller just for fan usage so everyone understands. If theres anyone you guys know that has wired up pumps to controllers please let them know about this post.
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post #14 of 25
PWM control requires that there is a 4 pin connection

Pin 1 = Ground
Pin 2 = 12V
Pin 3 = Sensor (tachometer)
Pin 4 = Control Signal

If the controller doesn't have the Control Signal output then it won't control the speed of the pump.

I guess you could replace the Molex connector with a fan connector and take the signal from Pin 3 on the 4 pin connector and connect that to the sensor connector on the 3 pin connector and connect it up that way but there'd be a risk if you set the voltage too low then the pump wouldn't start up. I haven't tried this (and why bother when the software control is far superior) so I'd be grateful if someone could confirm this is OK.
Edited by Big Elf - 11/1/11 at 6:46am
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Alright......I give up (Hands in the air).......Looks like I'am going to connect them through my CPU_Header (PWM).......really quick though, I don't like the Bios too much lol.....so if I can ask you guys what software I need to run it through Windows......I have 2 screens and my 2nd screen I post my temps etc while gaming etc etc so i can see whats going on with the PC on CPU/GPU and soon WC ......I have a bunch of PWM Splitters so Iam going to use the 2 pumps on those only one thing though the splitter i noticed one of the plugs doesnt have a green wire and the other does going to the main PWM connector that goes to the MB PWN. Link: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/84...tggJ&mv_pc=172 Thats what I bought to give you guys a better idea what I'am talking about. Also, to make sure again I will be plugging them both through molex for power and connecting them with that cable on the MB? Do I risk anything and anyone you guys know that has a good outcome? Just want to make sure. I'am being very cautious on this build.
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That splitter will work just fine and yes, you connect Molex connectors of both pumps to your PSU. On Windows you can make a rough profile for your pumps using Asus FanXpert. If you want more precise control then SpeedFan is what you want.
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What do I do in moments when the PC is being re-formated or reinstalling windows? Do the pumps auto-run @ 100% speed? Thats another thing I just thought about now.
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When i first got my MCP355, i thought i might want to use it on a controller. Once i got it installed, i never touched it. I dont see why you feel you need to use a controller for anything other than extra outputs.

Beyond that, its easy to match the wires to the outputs, on the pump:
Blue=yellow rpm
Black=black ground
Yellow=red positive

Thats all you need to know. I believe it would be wired with the same standard as all fans are so you could just plug it in and not worry.
I second this.My experiments with my variable speed 655 pump never produced any difference no matter what speed I set the pump.I think this is the first post I have read about someone placing effort into pump speed control.Perhaps you explain your reasoning behind your desire to control your pump speed.Now fans speed I am all into controlling fan speeds.
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I have two 35x in a dual loop. My cpu loop runs off the mb header pwm and the gpu loop runs off gpu 1 pwm header. My fans are run off a rheobus. The mb bios is working fine for control in pwm mode, since it can control duty cycle. AMD Overdrive controls the gpu 35x fine too. I didn't need to run any software in my rig.
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What do I do in moments when the PC is being re-formated or reinstalling windows? Do the pumps auto-run @ 100% speed? Thats another thing I just thought about now.
That depends on your bios settings, if you don't enable a fan profile in bios then pumps run at full speed until some Windows software starts controlling them.
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