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If it's a die-shrink and we get more cores to boot it's still worth an upgrade from my GTX 470. More than 512 stream processors on one chip? I hope so.
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If it's a die-shrink and we get more cores to boot it's still worth an upgrade from my GTX 470. More than 512 stream processors on one chip? I hope so.
CUDA, not stream processors there is a distinct difference.
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CUDA, not stream processors there is a distinct difference.
Blame Wikipedia. I was going to say CUDA but I googled first to check.

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The GF100, the first Fermi-architecture product, is large: 512 stream processors, in sixteen groups of 32, and 3.0 billion transistors, manufactured by TSMC in a 40 nm process.
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I had read a few days ago that TSMC finally got their 28nm process down. Good news indeed. Ill need to upgrade my x6 before i do a videocard upgrade. Otherwise im just bottlenecking

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No you won't. You are not going to bottleneck a single gpu card, even one of the next gen cards, with your x6 @4Ghz, that is preposterous.

A true cpu bottle neck only exists if you can raise and lower your resolution yet frames per second stay nearly the same. That is a cpu bottle neck. Not that you could get higher frames with a faster cpu.
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Blame Wikipedia. I was going to say CUDA but I googled first to check.
It's just usually stream processors is usually used to describe the core's in ATi cards.

CUDA cores are more bulky heavy work loaders, whilst stream processors are usually a bit more lightweight hence why there are many more in ATi cards than Nvidia cards to get the same performance.
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It's just usually stream processors is usually used to describe the core's in ATi cards.

CUDA cores are more bulky heavy work loaders, whilst stream processors are usually a bit more lightweight hence why there are many more in ATi cards than Nvidia cards to get the same performance.
The Wikipedia article contradicts itself a bit too, or maybe it's just the way I'm reading it.

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On 30 September 2009, Nvidia released a white paper describing the architecture:[3] the chip features 16 'Streaming Multiprocessors' each with 32 'CUDA Cores' capable of one single-precision operation per cycle or one double-precision operation every other cycle.
Should've just gone to the NVidia site in the first place and not doubt what I was initially going to write .
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Glad to see its getting closer until we can get our hands on some 28nm GPU goodness. Now just debating what to get, that will be the challenge.
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The Wikipedia article contradicts itself a bit too, or maybe it's just the way I'm reading it.



Should've just gone to the NVidia site in the first place and not doubt what I was initially going to write .
Tis cool, wiki is useful for quick look ups. Still Nvidia architecture ftw.
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If it's a die-shrink and we get more cores to boot it's still worth an upgrade from my GTX 470. More than 512 stream processors on one chip? I hope so.
just because its a smaller process node doesnt mean we will get more cores


nvidia could just shrink the gtx500 series to 28nm clock them higher and still use less power and be able to produce them much easier then the 500 series ... and would cost us less at the same time


and for the 700 series they'd probably be at 20nm so they could add more cores + more tweaks to the architecture ...


all because they went too big with fermi
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Hope this will perform a good deal better than 580. I've had the urge for a better GPU for a while now but there's nothing better to get, and I don't do multi GPUs.
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