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How do you not see it as withholding features? It was FIRST AVAILABLE on the 4 FOR FREE and is now exclusive to the 4S, even though both can run it. And of course they want to encourage growth of the 4S. But by taking something away that was available for free and slapping it into their new product?
The version on the App Store isn't the same as the version on the 4S. The company that developed Siri put their app on the App Store about two months before Apple acquired them. They decided to leave the App (which was free) on the store (rather than remove it) and only take it down when the version they worked on for about a year and half was ready to be launched.

Siri on the App Store was significantly slower and used more data to process commands. I assume it was also much more limited in what it could do.
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And this is a thead about Apple. Until Samsung makes such a move and you see everyone's reactions in a Samsung thread, your last comment is completely irrelevant.
That's true but I'm just making the point that a certain amount of all this "Apple sucks, withholding features", is due to it being Apple.
Edited by steelbom - 11/2/11 at 12:17am
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post #92 of 151
I know that the app store version and the 4S version are different. There was the original Siri that was developed on the iPhone 4 and was available for free. The "new Siri" is iPhone 4S exclusive. Now there is no Siri, new or old, on the iPhone 4, even though that is where it originated, and even though it can run either "version" of it. Why is that? And who is Apple thinking of when making that decision?
    
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Siri is the most comprehensible and obvious upgrade that the 4S sports, so of course that's what they're going to massively advertise.
I don't think that was his point. I think he is saying they make Siri look like a big deal when it was always there in the old phone. And now they remove it from the old phone to make it look like a new feature. I applaud Apple marketing team. I wish someday I can work for them.
post #94 of 151
What a joke.

I already knew that this would be possible from the start.

Also, Android Speaktoit Assistant > Siri.
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I know that the app store version and the 4S version are different. There was the original Siri that was developed on the iPhone 4 and was available for free. The "new Siri" is iPhone 4S exclusive. Now there is no Siri, new or old, on the iPhone 4, even though that is where it originated, and even though it can run either "version" of it. Why is that? And who is Apple thinking of when making that decision?
Apple simply discontinued an app that the company that developed Siri put on the store about two months prior to Apple buying said company. The version of Siri on the App Store ran on the iPhone 3G, and was dumbed down consequently. Apple wants to promote the 4S. Why should they keep it? It's free, and it costs them money to maintain/rent the servers it uses.
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I don't think that was his point. I think he is saying they make Siri look like a big deal when it was always there in the old phone. And now they remove it from the old phone to make it look like a new feature. I applaud Apple marketing team. I wish someday I can work for them.
It wasn't always in the old phone. The version on the App Store was dumbed down so it could work even on the iPhone 3G whereas the version on the 4S isn't dumbed down at all and should even be more advanced considering Apple has been working on it for one and a half years or so.
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What a joke.

I already knew that this would be possible from the start.

Also, Android Speaktoit Assistant > Siri.
How exactly is it better? The reason Siri is so great is because (aside from accuracy, and prompt speed) it doesn't matter how you ask it what you want to do. Speak to it naturally, it does what you want.
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That's true but I'm just making the point that a certain amount of all this "Apple sucks, withholding features", is due to it being Apple.
Reflect on that for a moment.
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Reflect on that for a moment.
Haha, you know what I mean.
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Why the outrage? Android users should be used to this sort of thing. When you buy an Android phone you're lucky if you receive ANY updates.
Obvious troll is obvious, and false. (Stop only looking at Motorola)
    
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The new Siri and the old Siri are totally different. Considering how tightly Apple controls it's products to maintain their image, is it crazy to assume they got rid of the old Siri as to not tarnish their new product? The new Siri is much more polished, witty, and powerful then the old, 3rd party version. If the old version were still in the wild, it would inevitable be used to test out Siri before upgrading and it could hurt sales when people arn't really impressed.
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The new Siri and the old Siri are totally different. Considering how tightly Apple controls it's products to maintain their image, is it crazy to assume they got rid of the old Siri as to not tarnish their new product? The new Siri is much more polished, witty, and powerful then the old, 3rd party version. If the old version were still in the wild, it would inevitable be used to test out Siri before upgrading and it could hurt sales when people arn't really impressed.
This.

That's exactly what I've been saying!
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