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I would recommend updating the OP to just install Winodows while BIOS/UEFI is set to "RAID" mode even for single SSD/HDD drives. This is in fact the same as running the drive in AHCI mode just with the added benefit of potential use of RAID in the future.
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I would recommend updating the OP to just install Winodows while BIOS/UEFI is set to "RAID" mode even for single SSD/HDD drives. This is in fact the same as running the drive in AHCI mode just with the added benefit of potential use of RAID in the future.

Meh, you can always change it and boot is slightly slower in RAID mode lol.
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I gave up on RAID... sozo.gif

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I gave up on RAID... sozo.gif

frown.gif I guess you need to give me some of them...
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Sorry to bother you again, but is it possible to move the ENTIRE Users folder to a secondary HDD? Not just the My Documents and stuff, but the whole folder (including AppData)?

Should I try the NTFS junction stuff? And if so, should I use the same method for Program Files?

http://lifehacker.com/5467758/move-the-users-directory-in-windows-7

Thanks in advance!
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Sorry to bother you again, but is it possible to move the ENTIRE Users folder to a secondary HDD? Not just the My Documents and stuff, but the whole folder (including AppData)?

Should I try the NTFS junction stuff? And if so, should I use the same method for Program Files?

http://lifehacker.com/5467758/move-the-users-directory-in-windows-7

Thanks in advance!

Make a system image first!

It should work if you follow that guide. Let us know how it goes.

Though I suggest you keep your appdata folder on the SSD b/c there are a bunch of program files in there and the same with the programs folder; the whole point of an SSD is so that the OS and programs open quickly...why do you want to move the programs folder in the first place?
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Meh, you can always change it and boot is slightly slower in RAID mode lol.

Really? Because it needs to go through the RAID firmware first?

I just got the suggestion of using RAID instead of AHCI from a renowned guy in HardForum when updating the Intel RAID OROM.
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If the problem is in RAID drivers, would running the SSD in AHCI and ditching my raid 0 array(until i switch to intel or get raid card) solve the problem ?

Probably not, but you could always try… It certainly couldn't hurt as a test.
Single drives that are not part of an ARRAY, even though managed by the RAID controller, operate in AHCI mode (or at least are supposed to). The controller should be using an AHCI driver that is incorporated into the RAID driver for the single drive.

With AMD, it may be possible to garner a little extra from the SSD if the controller also does not need to manage the ARRAY (less controller overhead).

Rather than a complete reinstall for the test, initially why don't you try disconnecting the two RE4s to see if just having the SSD attached shows improvement. The controller without the extra drives attached should require less overhead. If you see no (or some for that matter) improvement, you could always reinstall after that to see if further improvements can be seen.

But either way, let us know your results... You’ve peaked my curiosity.
I tried disconnecting the RE4s and all other hard drives and it does give me a slight boost in Seq reads by 20mb/s but thats really not much of improvement. I just got a deal to sell my cpu and mobo for 500 bucks so i am getting a UD7 and 2500k smile.gif
I will shoot myself if it performs crappy on intel , mark my words.
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Really? Because it needs to go through the RAID firmware first?
I just got the suggestion of using RAID instead of AHCI from a renowned guy in HardForum when updating the Intel RAID OROM.
Yeah Raid drivers take 4ever to boot up and it always is inconstant, can take anywhere from 5 to 20 seconds to load them up.
Logically it is better to run it in RAID but if you know and you wont have it there is no point.
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Sorry to bother you again, but is it possible to move the ENTIRE Users folder to a secondary HDD? Not just the My Documents and stuff, but the whole folder (including AppData)?

Should I try the NTFS junction stuff? And if so, should I use the same method for Program Files?

http://lifehacker.com/5467758/move-the-users-directory-in-windows-7

Thanks in advance!

Make a system image first!

It should work if you follow that guide. Let us know how it goes.

Though I suggest you keep your appdata folder on the SSD b/c there are a bunch of program files in there and the same with the programs folder; the whole point of an SSD is so that the OS and programs open quickly...why do you want to move the programs folder in the first place?

Well, not all my games are from Steam, and I have a large amount of programs that I use occasionally and that don't require fast opening.
Can I have two Program Files folders? Like, one for Microsoft Office and a few games on the SSD, and the other for all my other junk?

And I'll try it tomorrow and post results.
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Please skip to question @ bottom if long winded details are annoying smile.gif

Hi gang, Black Friday inspired me to become the proud owner of an Extreme4 Gen3 mobo/2500K/8gb (2x4) GSkill RJX 1600 cl9! Long painful story short, I was waiting for funds to add a Crucial M4 and an H100, that hasn't happened yet, I could wait no longer and used a clean HDD for a 1st boot/test bench trial before in box installation.

Following Sean's excellent Win7 install & optimization guide i got just to the point of installing the mobo drivers (that's another ? later). At that point I had a Win7 home64bit OEM installed on a clean 150GB Velociraptor with a 40gb partition for the OS using only 15.1GB's! Note: I got confused with the GPT vs MBR and just went with a regular install (1024/MBR?-"Low MMIO Align 1024m" to quote bios from UEFI setup/Advanced/North Bridge Configuration) since this is a trial run until I get my SSD.

I'm a greedy nOOb and here's where things got wanky frown.gif I had to see if my previous rigs HDD (1TB F3) would be readable to transfer all my games etc later. With both HDD's installed, after some trial n error, I got it to boot to the new OS on the Raptor (not the old OS) but the install had grown to 24.5GB's :O ... so I redid the hibernation/sys restore optimizations and a few others and the install has now grown "NOT Shrunk" to 31.7GB's and I haven't even loaded the mobo/vga drivers/update Win7, etc yet so I decided to try a new "clean" re-install ... Finally my 1st question, and you think my X was long winded tongue.gif

QUESTIONS ...

1) In the ASRock UEFI Bios/Boot/Boot Option #1 ... which option do I choose to have Win7 intall disk boot from? I have 2 kinds of choices for only "One" connected DVD drive?

a) UEFI: Optiarc DVD ... OR

b) AHCI: P5: Optiarc DVD ...

Keeping it to 1 question for now I apologize for the long winded inquiry, but I find it helpful for others to fully understand the circumstances, so they don't make the same "dumb" mistakes! Thanks in advance for info comments smile.gif
 
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