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Sean, followed your guide and I must say, it was easy even for a novice like me. smile.gif

Can you please expand on this?

Shrink the old HDD OS partition
Then make a new partition on the HDD in the free space
Then move the personal files to the new partition
When done moving your files delete the older OS partition
Then expand the new partition into the left over free space

How do you shrink the old OS? Thanks in advance.

Also, what do people mean when they use different controllers Marvel vs Sandforce. Which one would I be using? I have a UD3P and I enabled ACHI mode in BIOS. How would you switch?
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Is the 4096 alignment needed when creating the Windows 7 installation USB-drive? Is 4096 beneficial for flash disks?

Also, when installing the OS on the SSD with the storage HDD removed, what part will you put back the storage HDD?
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

If you have the trash bin disabled for your C drive anything delete from your C drive will be permanently deleted when you delete it.

  • So can you have the Recycle bin (assuming you are referring to it as the trash bin) for other drives? I have SSD and then 1tb HD for data and 500gb for Back up EDIT: You can select with drive use Recycle bin
  • Also if I wanted to raid 0 my data HD (I would put two 500 and use 1tb as backup, as this was my old setup) Would I just setup the raid just like your normally would? Unplug the SSD go in to bio, change ti raid, restart bios go in and set up the raid, restart bio and shut off, hook up SSD and goo to go?biggrin.gif
  • Also Hiberation is S4 correct? I only see in my bios for S1 S3 and then S1 and S3. But under windows shut up screen I have option to hibernate if wanted to. Didn't know if disabling it even though I can't choose it in bio would still free up space. EDIT: I must of skipped over it original as you said Hibernation is totally different than Sleep, so I did it and save 5GB
  • When i get my new board after xmas and 2500k or 2600k I can just plug my SSD with OS and just go or need to clean install it again?
  • When doing this step
    Remove start up programs and other things:

    Download autouns and run
    Uncheck the items you wish to disable
    Note: This is one of my favorite apps lol
    ** unchecking them in the program "autoruns" it will disable them correct? Just uncheck them and once done close the program, there is not "apply" button to hit? From reading the help file its just uncheck and go. But since I run fire fox will its program features still be under the explorer or internet explorer? EDIT: after reading the help file more it applies this way. Is there a program that tell you what is not need on boot up or services?
  • Even at 4.2 ghz on my I7 950 I'm getting 7.7 on my WEI score. Sounds silly just trying to get 7.9 biggrin.gif Data transfer was 7.8 but I think thats because of me being on a SATA 2 port vs SATA 3
  • The Ram Disk I think would be helpful for me since I built this computer mostly for CAD (my profession other than being a mechanic) How much room am I suppose to set a side (all my ram)? I have 6gb of ram installed and is it reversible?


Sorry for all the question but some of the question has zero search hits.


Your guide has helped me out soo much and I still find my self trying to find little ways to improve the performance under further optimization ! Thank you!
Edited by Djstorm100 - 12/23/11 at 1:00am
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Sean, I followed your guide and set up my brand new Corsair Force GT (120GB) x2 in RAID-0.

Installed Windows 7 x64 and ran some tests. I am on an X58 board (Asus P6T7 WS SuperComputer) so I only have SATA 2 ports.

Are these scores for these SSDs (2 of them in RAID-0) pretty good for SATA 2?

Also, I tried installing the new NVidia Beta drivers (290.53) and it didn't allow me to enable 4-way SLI. Whenever I clicked on "Span Displays with Surround" or "Maximize 3D Performance", it kept showing "SLI" instead of "4-Way SLI".

When I reverted back to the 285.62 WHQL drivers, however, it works fine. The reason I brought this up is that I read on the NVidia forums that apparently people with SandForce based SSDs (as the Corsair Force GT is one of them) and X58 motherboards are having issues with the new NVidia beta drivers (290.XX). Apparently for many, the driver just seems to uninstall itself after restarting the PC. I didn't have that happen to me but I am unable to enable 4-Way SLI. I have tried numerous uninstalls and reinstalls of the beta drivers to no avail. Any ideas on how to fix this?

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Originally Posted by intelfan View Post

Sean, followed your guide and I must say, it was easy even for a novice like me. smile.gif
Can you please expand on this?
Shrink the old HDD OS partition
Then make a new partition on the HDD in the free space
Then move the personal files to the new partition
When done moving your files delete the older OS partition
Then expand the new partition into the left over free space
How do you shrink the old OS? Thanks in advance.
Will do soon, but you can shrink the partition in disk management and adjust the partition size and such there as well. Ill do a video on it soon wink.gif
Quote:
Also, what do people mean when they use different controllers Marvel vs Sandforce. Which one would I be using? I have a UD3P and I enabled ACHI mode in BIOS. How would you switch?
Marvell vs Sandforce is for SSDs

Marvell vs Native Intel or AMD SATA ports is what you mean.

Marvell suck and Native = 100000000 times better.

Use your mobo manual and make sure your drive is in the right port. It should be if you installed the newest sata driver for it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Is the 4096 alignment needed when creating the Windows 7 installation USB-drive? Is 4096 beneficial for flash disks?

No point don't worry about it.
Quote:
Also, when installing the OS on the SSD with the storage HDD removed, what part will you put back the storage HDD?
??? Says in step 3 lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Djstorm100 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

If you have the trash bin disabled for your C drive anything delete from your C drive will be permanently deleted when you delete it.

  • So can you have the Recycle bin (assuming you are referring to it as the trash bin) for other drives? I have SSD and then 1tb HD for data and 500gb for Back up EDIT: You can select with drive use Recycle bin
Yep
Quote:
[*] Also if I wanted to raid 0 my data HD (I would put two 500 and use 1tb as backup, as this was my old setup) Would I just setup the raid just like your normally would? Unplug the SSD go in to bio, change ti raid, restart bios go in and set up the raid, restart bio and shut off, hook up SSD and goo to go?biggrin.gif
Raid 0 for backup = not good idea

And make the array with the SSD in and you will be fine.
Quote:
[*] Also Hiberation is S4 correct? I only see in my bios for S1 S3 and then S1 and S3. But under windows shut up screen I have option to hibernate if wanted to. Didn't know if disabling it even though I can't choose it in bio would still free up space. EDIT: I must of skipped over it original as you said Hibernation is totally different than Sleep, so I did it and save 5GB
Never used or had hibernation so i do not know. lol
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[*] When i get my new board after xmas and 2500k or 2600k I can just plug my SSD with OS and just go or need to clean install it again?
I suggest you reinstall frown.gif
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[*] When doing this step
Remove start up programs and other things:

Download autouns and run
Uncheck the items you wish to disable
Note: This is one of my favorite apps lol
** unchecking them in the program "autoruns" it will disable them correct? Just uncheck them and once done close the program, there is not "apply" button to hit? From reading the help file its just uncheck and go. But since I run fire fox will its program features still be under the explorer or internet explorer?

Uncheck and go smile.gif

I love it! and firefox is not supported by it so i will not be affected

Quote:
EDIT: after reading the help file more it applies this way. Is there a program that tell you what is not need on boot up or services?
you really don't need any of the boot up stuff, just choose what you want. I just leave most of it enabled honestly, like skype, teamviewer, msn, virus software, audio driver, etc.
Quote:
[*] Even at 4.2 ghz on my I7 950 I'm getting 7.7 on my WEI score. Sounds silly just trying to get 7.9 biggrin.gif Data transfer was 7.8 but I think thats because of me being on a SATA 2 port vs SATA 3
I had the same as you when i had my i7 930 @ 4.2 lol
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[*] The Ram Disk I think would be helpful for me since I built this computer mostly for CAD (my profession other than being a mechanic) How much room am I suppose to set a side? I have 6gb of ram installed and is it reversible?

I would grab like 24GB of ram, download the full copy of dataram ramdisk for $15 and get playing with it. And yes it is reversible as in you can turn it off and on whenever, you just need to experiment.
Quote:
Sorry for all the question but some of the question has zero search hits.

Your guide has helped me out soo much and I still find my self trying to find little ways to improve the performance under further optimization ! Thank you!

NP wink.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baasha View Post

Sean, I followed your guide and set up my brand new Corsair Force GT (120GB) x2 in RAID-0.

Installed Windows 7 x64 and ran some tests. I am on an X58 board (Asus P6T7 WS SuperComputer) so I only have SATA 2 ports.

Are these scores for these SSDs (2 of them in RAID-0) pretty good for SATA 2?

looks good to me.
Quote:
Also, I tried installing the new NVidia Beta drivers (290.53) and it didn't allow me to enable 4-way SLI. Whenever I clicked on "Span Displays with Surround" or "Maximize 3D Performance", it kept showing "SLI" instead of "4-Way SLI".

When I reverted back to the 285.62 WHQL drivers, however, it works fine. The reason I brought this up is that I read on the NVidia forums that apparently people with SandForce based SSDs (as the Corsair Force GT is one of them) and X58 motherboards are having issues with the new NVidia beta drivers (290.XX). Apparently for many, the driver just seems to uninstall itself after restarting the PC. I didn't have that happen to me but I am unable to enable 4-Way SLI. I have tried numerous uninstalls and reinstalls of the beta drivers to no avail. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Nope sorry redface.gif
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Will do soon, but you can shrink the partition in disk management and adjust the partition size and such there as well. Ill do a video on it soon wink.gif
Quote:
Also, what do people mean when they use different controllers Marvel vs Sandforce. Which one would I be using? I have a UD3P and I enabled ACHI mode in BIOS. How would you switch?
Marvell vs Sandforce is for SSDs
Marvell vs Native Intel or AMD SATA ports is what you mean.
Marvell suck and Native = 100000000 times better.
Use your mobo manual and make sure your drive is in the right port. It should be if you installed the newest sata driver for it.
NP wink.gif
looks good to me.
Quote:
Also, I tried installing the new NVidia Beta drivers (290.53) and it didn't allow me to enable 4-way SLI. Whenever I clicked on "Span Displays with Surround" or "Maximize 3D Performance", it kept showing "SLI" instead of "4-Way SLI".
When I reverted back to the 285.62 WHQL drivers, however, it works fine. The reason I brought this up is that I read on the NVidia forums that apparently people with SandForce based SSDs (as the Corsair Force GT is one of them) and X58 motherboards are having issues with the new NVidia beta drivers (290.XX). Apparently for many, the driver just seems to uninstall itself after restarting the PC. I didn't have that happen to me but I am unable to enable 4-Way SLI. I have tried numerous uninstalls and reinstalls of the beta drivers to no avail. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Nope sorry redface.gif

Already bought the Ramdisk full verison!

24 GB of ram? Really? lol Holly **** I won't have a problem with the chip set? I could of sworn I read on evga forums they had problems with that much ram. How much should I set in ram disk all? I don't really understand how it works or what it does really. From my understanding it takes ram and turns it in to a driver (save data) but its like a partition correct? If I Ramdisk 2gb I will only have 4gb to use as memory?

**** found this The amount of memory reserved by RAMDisk for the OS is 512 MB. Therefore, the maximum
size RAMDisk you can create = Installed RAM - 512 MB.****

Ramdisk said that I only have 5536mb to use even though I have 6gb of ram?

How would I set it up to make CAD programs faster? I image there is a tweet like the one use for Firefox.

What would be some fast ram for the money? I have this ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145286 and this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188039
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Already bought the Ramdisk full verison!
biggrin.gif
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24 GB of ram? Really?

Oh yea buddy! biggrin.gif
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lol Holly **** I won't have a problem with the chip set? I could of sworn I read on evga forums they had problems with that much ram.
Hmm...IDK, I would make sure to see what you can get for sure. maybe 12 will be fine, but 6 is pushing it.
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How much should I set in ram disk all?
As much as you want/need
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I don't really understand how it works or what it does really.
And you already bought it? lol
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From my understanding it takes ram and turns it in to a driver (save data) but its like a partition correct?
Yea, makes the RAM you allocate to it a super fast disk for your data to be put on.
You can use it as a scratch disk, temp file save location, whatever and have no lag from it. The CPU is a bottle neck to it b/c it is so fast XD
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If I Ramdisk 2gb I will only have 4gb to use as memory?
Yep
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How would I set it up to make CAD programs faster? I image there is a tweet like the one use for Firefox.
Google and be creative with it. I may be able to give you ideas, but it is late now and i am too tired to think lol

What CAD software you use? I've used AutoCAD and 3DS Max.
Just get another set of that if you can or a 3x4GB set to start off with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006050%20600006078%20600000261%20600006127&IsNodeId=1&name=DDR3%201600%20%28PC3%2012800%29

I like G.Skill and Mushkin, but any will do.

Also, you better have pagefile on with your system!
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

biggrin.gif
Quote:
24 GB of ram? Really?
Oh yea buddy! biggrin.gif
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lol Holly **** I won't have a problem with the chip set? I could of sworn I read on evga forums they had problems with that much ram.
Hmm...IDK, I would make sure to see what you can get for sure. maybe 12 will be fine, but 6 is pushing it.
Quote:
How much should I set in ram disk all?
As much as you want/need
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I don't really understand how it works or what it does really.
And you already bought it? lol
Quote:
From my understanding it takes ram and turns it in to a driver (save data) but its like a partition correct?
Yea, makes the RAM you allocate to it a super fast disk for your data to be put on.
You can use it as a scratch disk, temp file save location, whatever and have no lag from it. The CPU is a bottle neck to it b/c it is so fast XD
Quote:
If I Ramdisk 2gb I will only have 4gb to use as memory?
Yep
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How would I set it up to make CAD programs faster? I image there is a tweet like the one use for Firefox.
Google and be creative with it. I may be able to give you ideas, but it is late now and i am too tired to think lol
What CAD software you use? I've used AutoCAD and 3DS Max. Just get another set of that if you can or a 3x4GB set to start off with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006050%20600006078%20600000261%20600006127&IsNodeId=1&name=DDR3%201600%20%28PC3%2012800%29
I like G.Skill and Mushkin, but any will do.
Also, you better have pagefile on with your system!

Pagefile?

I use autocad 2012, Pro-E, Revit mostly.

Do I just install the software on to the Ramdisk? Is that how/what you are suppose to do?

Hey! it was only 15 bucks lol


Am I going to notice a different between Cas Latency of 8/9?

I see alot of opinion for 9 9 9 9 24 But don't know which is the best (money not being a major concern)

These are the ones I'm looking at

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233189



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231464




http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358
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Pagefile?
Yea! LOL, just don't disable it that is all.
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I use autocad 2012, Pro-E, Revit mostly.
I'll look into optimizing workflow for those tomorrow or something if you want.
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Do I just install the software on to the Ramdisk? Is that how/what you are suppose to do?
nah, you put your files you are working with on there mostly.
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Hey! it was only 15 bucks lol
haha biggrin.gif
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Pagefile?
Yea! LOL, just don't disable it that is all.
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I use autocad 2012, Pro-E, Revit mostly.
I'll look into optimizing workflow for those tomorrow or something if you want.
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Do I just install the software on to the Ramdisk? Is that how/what you are suppose to do?
nah, you put your files you are working with on there mostly.
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Hey! it was only 15 bucks lol
haha biggrin.gif

I did a quick search to see what Pagefile is and kept getting people say "Don't disable it!" Never told what it does/what it is for.


That be awesome if you could see in to optimizing the workflow, whenever you have time.

So put the drawing files that I'm using on it or my templates (for cad)

For games what (say BF2) what you put on the Ramdisk what files exactly?
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