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When should or is ok to shrink the page file?

Multitasking as in having a lot of programs open at once? Trying to free up as much space on my SSD as possible.


also going back to RamDisk. If I wanted autocad (the program not the drawing) to open blazing fast I would need to install autocad on to ram disk. The draw them selves open up fast once autocad is loaded up.

I followed you link on how to set up and the firefox way for cache. I haven't don it yet as I'm waiting for after Christmas to get the ram.

Am I going to notice a different between Cas Latency of 8/9?

I see alot of opinion for 9 9 9 9 24 But don't know which is the best (money not being a major concern)

These are the ones I'm looking at

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233189



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231464




http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358
Edited by Djstorm100 - 12/24/11 at 2:36am
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When should or is ok to shrink the page file?

When you are not maxing out your RAM 24/7. Shrink it to what you feel the need for. Say you have 12GB RAM. You don't need a 12GB pagefile. Shrink it say 1GB-6GB depending on how much RAM your programs use.
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Multitasking as in having a lot of programs open at once? Trying to free up as much space on my SSD as possible.
??? That is what multitasking is, is it not? lol
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also going back to RamDisk. If I wanted autocad (the program not the drawing) to open blazing fast I would need to install autocad on to ram disk. The draw them selves open up fast once autocad is loaded up.
Yea, if you wanted to you can. Putting it on an SSD is fine for me lol.
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I followed you link on how to set up and the firefox way for cache. I haven't don it yet as I'm waiting for after Christmas to get the ram.
Meh, i don't do it lol, some pple do. I really see no real point to it.
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Am I going to notice a different between Cas Latency of 8/9?
IDK for sure, but you shouldn't notice it at all, only in synthetic benches.
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I see alot of opinion for 9 9 9 9 24 But don't know which is the best (money not being a major concern)
These are the ones I'm looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231464
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358
I'm always partial to G.SKILL lol. Get the Ripjaws or Snipers....all those will perform the same.

Of to bed again lol peace. Fell free t reply and I'll reply in the morning wink.gif
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@xandyx

How do I remove the "Windows Boot Manager" entry in UEFI if I want to? Resetting the NVRAM by using the jumper did not do anything. It seems that my motherboard have a backup of all the settings even if you remove the CMOS battery or use the jumper cap. How do I remove that entry?
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@xandyx

How do I remove the "Windows Boot Manager" entry in UEFI if I want to? Resetting the NVRAM by using the jumper did not do anything. It seems that my motherboard have a backup of all the settings even if you remove the CMOS battery or use the jumper cap. How do I remove that entry?

yep.. It's on the SSD, not necessarily on the motherboard. That's that GPT redundency thing. wink.gif

I made a rather lengthy post on this topic back a few pages (remember the "clogged BCD store" Post?)... I'll wish you luck now.. follow the instructions explicitly. And don't forget to back up your current BCD store first, in case you make a mistake.

here's the post: Clear NVRAM/BCD Store

EDIT: kevin, I just realized that you are using GPT... if you remove the Windows Boot manager entry, you won't be able to boot your computer without jumping through hoops. just a heads up.
Edited by xandypx - 12/24/11 at 6:41am
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because they don't use the same maths as your operating system. an operating systems work on 1024 while HDD/SSD work on 1000. so according to your SSD it has 90GB but that's in 1000 bytes to a kilobyte. Your operating system works on 1024 bytes to a kilobyte and so on. imo, they do it to make you think there is more space than there is, but if you actually read the fine print it will tell you that there "may be less space than advertised". Its pretty silly but its been like that as long as i can remember.

right on, thanks for the info. i know i read something like this a while ago but i just didnt think it would have THAT much inpact on the end capacity.
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My only outstanding question is when i first set-up the drive it showed 83GB not 90GB in the beginning. whatever, assumed there be some loss like a reg HDD,
Read below:
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Why is my hard drive smaller than its advertised size?
There is probably nothing wrong. Imagine a world where a "foot" was 12 inches to one person and 11 to another. The only thing common to the two people with yard sticks would be the size of the inch. Their yard sticks placed side to side would be different. There are two gigabytes, two megabytes, and two kilobytes, each meaning something slightly different then its counterpart. It so happens that 2 ^10th power is almost 1000 (it's 1024) and 2 ^20th power is almost 1 million (it's 1,048,576) and 2 ^30th power is almost 1 billion ( it's 1,073,741,824). A kilobyte is 1000 bytes to person counting in decimal and 1024 bytes to a person using the binary representations. The only thing common to the two measurement systems is the size of a byte.
Your operating system uses both binary and decimal representations of hard drive space depending on where you look. The hard drive manufacturers use the decimal representation. I've seen people complain that HD manufacturers are using the most beneficial numbers to rate their products, but I don't agree with this. If you use the decimal system you know exactly how many bytes your hard drive will hold without having to think about it. If you use the binary representation, you have to do a calculation to figure the exact number of bytes your hard drive will hold.
Let’s use the example of an 80 gigabyte hard drive. A typical 80 gig will have 80,048,390,144, but Windows will report that as 74.5GB in some places. If we calculate 80,048,390,144/1,048,576 we get roughly 74.55, (binary) gigabytes. A 160 GB drive would be 160,000,000,000/1,073,741,824 or 149.0116119 (binary) gigabytes. To get the values in (binary) megabytes simply divide by 1,048,576.
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but after my windows install I only had like 52GB free. What happened to all my space?
Yep, like firestorm1 said, pagefile, hibernation file are killers. Just shrink pagefile down to 1024MB min and max and disable hibernation.
Thanks biggrin.gif
Yep lol

I did everything you said in your guide in regards to turning off recycle bin, page file, etc, etc and still end up with barely any left over drive space. o well its a good thing i found someone on CL selling Velociraptors. i might just get one of those as a backup or whatever.
thanks again for all your help guys you RULE!!!
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yep.. It's on the SSD, not necessarily on the motherboard. That's that GPT redundency thing. wink.gif
I made a rather lengthy post on this topic back a few pages (remember the "clogged BCD store" Post?)... I'll wish you luck now.. follow the instructions explicitly. And don't forget to back up your current BCD store first, in case you make a mistake.
here's the post: Clear NVRAM/BCD Store
EDIT: kevin, I just realized that you are using GPT... if you remove the Windows Boot manager entry, you won't be able to boot your computer without jumping through hoops. just a heads up.

oh ok. well, i want to start from scratch. I mean when I installed my motherboard in my case, there isn't any Windows Boot Manager entry in the UEFI. Does that mean it isn't present? Is it different from deleting through BCDedit?

I want to start clean as in delete everything on my SSD. doing a "clean" command in diskpart; would it delete the entry?

@Sean

Is indexing not recommended to be disabled on an SSD?

How about increasing the number of processors under Boot->Advanced Options of msconfig, won't that boost startup speed?
Edited by kevindd992002 - 12/24/11 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

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Originally Posted by xandypx View Post

yep.. It's on the SSD, not necessarily on the motherboard. That's that GPT redundency thing. wink.gif
I made a rather lengthy post on this topic back a few pages (remember the "clogged BCD store" Post?)... I'll wish you luck now.. follow the instructions explicitly. And don't forget to back up your current BCD store first, in case you make a mistake.
here's the post: Clear NVRAM/BCD Store
EDIT: kevin, I just realized that you are using GPT... if you remove the Windows Boot manager entry, you won't be able to boot your computer without jumping through hoops. just a heads up.

oh ok. well, i want to start from scratch. I mean when I installed my motherboard in my case, there isn't any Windows Boot Manager entry in the UEFI. Does that mean it isn't present? Is it different from deleting through BCDedit?

I want to start clean as in delete everything on my SSD. doing a "clean" command in diskpart; would it delete the entry?

@Sean

Is indexing not recommended to be disabled on an SSD?

How about increasing the number of processors under Boot->Advanced Options of msconfig, won't that boost startup speed?

If you start with a "clean" SSD, the BCD store does not exist yet. The BCD Store is created during Windows Installation. The BCD Store is placed on the EFI partition under GPT. With an MBR installation, It ends up on the Windows "system/recovery" partition (if you allow the system partiton to be created during install), or if you pre-format the entire drive prior to install, it will be put on the primary partition along with the OS.

The BCD store is one of the things that ends up ultimately being installed to another drive if you have more than one Drive attached to the PC during a windows install. That's why it's recommended to disconnect all other drives execpt for where you intend to install the OS.

To ensure no remnants, you can execute a "clean" command in Diskpart, shut down the computer, and clear your NVRAM. This will ensure that the NVRAM can't pick up possible "stray" entries that may have existed in the BCD store, when the UEFI re-initializes.

Indexing is not required for an SSD. Indexing helps the OS to locate certain files more quickly on HDDs. Not necessary with the speed of an SSD. Although indexing can be benefitial on other drives on your system that store your DATA, so it is up to you on whether you index those drives. Indexing can be enabled/disabled on a drive by drive basis through the drives "properties" dialogue.
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@Sean

Is indexing not recommended to be disabled on an SSD?
No need to disable it, actually some programs get benefit from it such as m$ outlook.
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How about increasing the number of processors under Boot->Advanced Options of msconfig, won't that boost startup speed?
nope not at all.
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Quick Q....I know im a noob.


Got my SS 830...

So I've got this mobo http://us.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-C43--B3-.html

I believe it is 'BIOS"

So when I'm looking to create the partition or install it I use the "Configure a drive using a BIOS/UEFI motherboard and MBR format" or "Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format"????????? Which one?

I got my win 7 CD here and just waitin on what to do...?

Thanks
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Quick Q....I know im a noob.


Got my SS 830...

So I've got this mobo http://us.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-C43--B3-.html

I believe it is 'BIOS"

So when I'm looking to create the partition or install it I use the "Configure a drive using a BIOS/UEFI motherboard and MBR format" or "Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format"????????? Which one?

I got my win 7 CD here and just waitin on what to do...?

Thanks

lol, look how fast I reply! 11 seconds after your post lol.

Your mobo is UEFI, but just use the MBR one still.
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