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Hi Sean, I was about to delete my old OS partition on my HDD (F:) and expand my new partition with the new programs and data (D:) when I noticed the System Reserved partition. My HDD was not connected when I installed Windows 7 to the SSD, so is this System Reserved partition from my previous Windows 7 installation? It had 100MB out of 100MB free a few days ago but now it's 37.8MB free. Should I delete it?

Also, my Windows folder seems to have expanded to 22.2GB... could this have been from updates?

You can find out rather quickly if windows is by chance (I suspect it may be, based on its size change) using the system reserved partition on your secondary drive. Have your windows install media available just in case you can't reboot.

You can do one of two things:

1: Disconnect the drive, and attempt to boot windows. If windows boots, it's not being used, and you can then shut down reattach the HDD and (I think because it's not being used) delete the partition with Diskpart. You would need to mark the partition as "Inactive" before it can be deleted. If the system does not boot, with an error, "No operating system found", the BCD has been relocated by windows into this partition. There are steps that can be done to get the BCD information back onto the SSD. If you find this to be the case, repost and I'll provide the info. Reattaching the drive will allow you to reboot the system as normal.

or...

2: after booting into windows, start an elevated command promt (just like when you installed windows), and start the diskpart utility.

Type LIST DISK
Type SELECT DISK n (where n is the number of the drive that has the 100MB partition)
Type LIST PARTITION
Type SELECT PARTITION n (where n is the number of the 100MB partition)
Type INACTIVE
Type EXIT to exit DISKPART
Type EXIT again to exit the command prompt
Reboot

With the 100MB partition "inactive", the system won't boot if it is being used. This is where you would need the installation media. If the PC won't boot, you will need to boot from the install media, and get to the part where you can initiate a CMD window. Follow the steps above but type "Active" rather than inactive when you get to that instruction.

The problem you have if this partition is being used by windows, is that there is no way to delete it without doing a complete cleaning of the drive. the only command that will remove the partition is the diskpart "clean" command, and that will destroy all other data on the drive. The "delete partition" command in Diskpart can not be used to delete a system partition, boot partition, or any partition that contains the active paging file or crash dump information. I'm not even 100% sure that the instruction posted above (for if it is not being used) will actually allow you to delete the partition.

If you are able to delete the partition, you can then expand the additional 100MB of space into one of the other partitions on the drive through Disk management under windows.
Edited by xandypx - 12/28/11 at 12:10pm
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Thanks for the detailed response!

If the System Reserved partition turns out to be in use by the Windows 7 on the SSD, are there any performance drawbacks to keeping it on the HDD?
And am I safe to delete the other partition, "F:"?
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Thanks for the detailed response!
If the System Reserved partition turns out to be in use by the Windows 7 on the SSD, are there any performance drawbacks to keeping it on the HDD?
And am I safe to delete the other partition, "F:"?

Why not just completely reformat the HDD? I did on mine... Thankfully I had a backup external HDD so I either backed up data on my SSD and copied it back or used the external drive. Used a full format instead of quick format. Took a few hours to format. Just let it run overnight.
I had the same issue. Installed my OS on the SSD then still had win 7 on my old HDD. You should be able to delete that 100MB partition, however I don't think you can merge it with the rest of the drive...not sure about that.
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128k is fine. I found no discernable performance differences between stripe sizes below 128k when I ran my tests.
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Thanks for the detailed response!

If the System Reserved partition turns out to be in use by the Windows 7 on the SSD, are there any performance drawbacks to keeping it on the HDD?
And am I safe to delete the other partition, "F:"?

Not a major performance difference "per-se", but it may slow the boot time slightly. Once you're into windows, there should be no difference as the OS will not regularly access this partition. the slight slowdown will occur because your BIOS will need to read the BCD info from a HDD, rather than an SSD, so there's the hit. Your screen shot above shows the boot files for your current windows installation on the SSD, so I'm not 100% sure what you've got going on. Only trial and error will determine that.

The Partition listed as F:\ should be easily deleted. You can even do that in disk management. Then you can extend your D:\ partition to use the extra space.
Just remember, before you do delete it, make sure you reclaim the files that you need from the "old" OS installation. Especially the info in Users/"your user name"/appdata, that you might be looking for later. This directory is hidden, but may contain some information that you want to save, such as saved games and configuration settings for programs you will reinstall.

Didn't quote the post by Cakewalk_S, but if you are able to delete the 100MB partition, and it becomes unallocated space, this space without a doubt can also be extended into your D:/ partition.
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128k is fine. I found no discernable performance differences between stripe sizes below 128k when I ran my tests.

Yeah 128k Is the default and best option.
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Kk, thanks, Cakewalk and xandypx, I'll just delete F:\ and extend D:\ into the new space and figure out E:\ (System Reserved) later.
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not just completely reformat the HDD? I did on mine... Thankfully I had a backup external HDD so I either backed up data on my SSD and copied it back or used the external drive.

I don't have a second HDD to backup stuff to. I merely shrunk the old OS partition and created a new partition (aptly named Noah's Ark tongue.gif) for the personal data that was to be saved (like the AppData save files and Minecraft worlds, and my homework and stuff).

Random question, but is "short-stroking" just shrinking the OS partition of a HDD to, say, 300GB, and leaving the rest of the space unallocated?
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Kk, thanks, Cakewalk and xandypx, I'll just delete F:\ and extend D:\ into the new space and figure out E:\ (System Reserved) later.
I don't have a second HDD to backup stuff to. I merely shrunk the old OS partition and created a new partition (aptly named Noah's Ark tongue.gif) for the personal data that was to be saved (like the AppData save files and Minecraft worlds, and my homework and stuff).
Random question, but is "short-stroking" just shrinking the OS partition of a HDD to, say, 300GB, and leaving the rest of the space unallocated?



Yes.
You may also create additional partitions on the same drive.
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Why does it say 4096 alignment but 1024 for RAID? Does this apply to both GPT and MBR?

Is it OK to have some disks at 4096 and others at 1024 in the same system?
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Why does it say 4096 alignment but 1024 for RAID? Does this apply to both GPT and MBR?
Is it OK to have some disks at 4096 and others at 1024 in the same system?
As long as you don't raid a 1024 with a 4096 HDD together, yes..it is fine smile.gif
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