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No problem

A new step will be added to the guide!(if it is good, and it should be) It pertains to GPT partitioning and Users with UEFI bioses. Basically there needs to be 3 partitions created and one is for the uefi bios as an extension.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...dware/gg463525

Also, I'm adding in how to adjust your services and start up programs.
Thanks for bringing this up. IMO, this should be standard for boards with UEFI nowadays

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Google "Black Viper services" and make a guide from there. I've been going to his site for years.
I swear that I've read somewhere advising not to use Black Viper services anymore since it is very outdated and some may not be applicable for systems nowadays. Not 100% sure about this though.

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i read that. but in all honesty, i dont plan on keeping these drives for more than a year or 2 at most. im always upgrading something. so the lack of TRIM support shouldnt affect the read/write speeds that much for me to worry. thats even if it affects it at all.

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also, whats a good benchmark to test a ssd. i read that ATTO is pretty reliable. i was also informed last night that benchmarking a ssd can cause it to wear faster than normal use. can anyone confirm/deny this? i dont plan on benching every day, but i would like to check my read/speeds every so often
Usually ATTO is used for Sandforce-based drives. Using AS SSD with Sandforce-based drives will have results lower than the rated speeds since this software uses Incompressible Data rather than Compressible Data used by ATTO. AFAIK, incompressible data is mostly data used by OS (I'm not 100% sure on this).

Hope this helps.

@all

What is the best "CLUSTER SIZE" to use for fromatting storage drives?
post #132 of 5384
Extensive guide, but with so many "optimizations" why even bother with an SSD. I have to be honest, 99% of these are not needed. Most of these tweaks came from early generations of SSDs and further a lot of them were born out of the need to run pre-Windows 7 OS on the SSD. For Windows 7 all you need to do really is install the OS and make sure that defrag is disabled after install, as well as disable ReadyBoot. Everything else is basically irrelevant, including moving your user directory to a spinner drive (noticeable hit in performance).

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Usually ATTO is used for Sandforce-based drives. Using AS SSD with Sandforce-based drives will have results lower than the rated speeds since this software uses Incompressible Data rather than Compressible Data used by ATTO. AFAIK, incompressible data is mostly data used by OS (I'm not 100% sure on this).

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Actually, OS uses mostly compressible data; hence why Sandforce drives are so good as primary boot drives. Incompressible data is largely comprised of compressed image formats, video formats, music formats, and data images and these tend to work better on drives that do not use Sandforce controllers as rated speeds usually reflect sequential throughput irrespective of the type of data.
Edited by dejanh - 11/2/11 at 8:09am
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Extensive guide, but with so many "optimizations" why even bother with an SSD. I have to be honest, 99% of these are not needed.
You gotta keep in mind that most of the optimizations are for saving space. Which is why they are optional. The only thing you really need to do is turn on AHCI. Why bother with an SSD? because they can be triple the read speed of a modern day mechanical drive and it CAN be one of the most performance boosting upgrades in your machine.
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You won't have an Intel controller on an AMD board, but here are the specs for the ports:



http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD...specifications
ah, thanks for the info.
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You gotta keep in mind that most of the optimizations are for saving space. Which is why they are optional. The only thing you really need to do is turn on AHCI. Why bother with an SSD? because they can be triple the read speed of a modern day mechanical drive and it CAN be one of the most performance boosting upgrades in your machine.
He means why even bother doing these optimizations with an SSD, not why go with an SSD He is using an SSD.
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Awesome, but just thought I should add that the OP should include "disable scheduled defragmentation".

No need to defrag an SSD when the I/O on it is ridiculous compared to an HDD
Like I said, this is an up to date guide. Windows automatically disables defragmentation SSD's.

I have multiple HDD's in my system and defragmentation helps.
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He means why even bother doing these optimizations with an SSD, not why go with an SSD He is using an SSD.
Ahh ok gotcha, disregard that part then! Although I feel like people read everything and get immediatly bugged out that "people might be making everything overcomplicated" when in reality all you need to do is just read everything and decide what you need or want to do.

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None of this is really necessary! Though I do it and suggest others too. I've spent hours upon hours looking up info and reinstalled Windows 7 over 50 times now, this I what I got from it.
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Thread is being modified, I am hoping to add some info to each step of the guide to explain why I do it
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@BradleyW

Can we use 4096 alignment with GPT partition style SSDs?

How about Cluster Size?
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@BradleyW

Can we use 4096 alignment with GPT partition style SSDs?

How about Cluster Size?
You can use the 4096 alignment, you just need to format it with three partitions, my friend said he will make a guide.

As for cluster size, I think that the default 4 KB is fine.
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