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How is it detecting the wrong drive? How do you know? lol
Make sure your SSD is not in IDE mode too.
You can try this:
Fix W.E.I. scores reporting wrong:
  1. Go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT and delete the winsat.txt
  2. Then go to C:\Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore and delete all the files in there.
  3. Now restart W.E.I.
    Note: The scores should be the proper score now.

I will try this when I return to my dwelling later tonight. I know it is reporting the wrong one because before i plugged in the other hard drives i had a over a 7.0 score with my ssd and it went back to a 5.9. It is also reporting it as having 300gb+ of free space and I have only a 60gb ssd with windows on it.
I went into the "details" after i did the w.e.i.
But I will go ahead and try the solution you provided and ill report back.
Also thank you very much for the guide.
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I got a Crucial M4 mate. Anyways, the best way for me to change the installation folders, is to replicate the Users/SgtMunky/Program Files (x86) folders on the secondary drive. This way, the path is the exact same as the default apart from the initial drive letter

That way, instead of browsing to my secondary drive and choosing/making the right folder, I just change the letter at the start of the 'install to' window smile.gif

You might have said this somewhere though, ignore me if so rolleyes.gif
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I will try this when I return to my dwelling later tonight. I know it is reporting the wrong one because before i plugged in the other hard drives i had a over a 7.0 score with my ssd and it went back to a 5.9. It is also reporting it as having 300gb+ of free space and I have only a 60gb ssd with windows on it.
I went into the "details" after i did the w.e.i.
But I will go ahead and try the solution you provided and ill report back.
Also thank you very much for the guide.
Weird, maybe b/c your SSD is not in the first SATA port on the mobo?
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I got a Crucial M4 mate. Anyways, the best way for me to change the installation folders, is to replicate the Users/SgtMunky/Program Files (x86) folders on the secondary drive. This way, the path is the exact same as the default apart from the initial drive letter

That way, instead of browsing to my secondary drive and choosing/making the right folder, I just change the letter at the start of the 'install to' window smile.gif

You might have said this somewhere though, ignore me if so rolleyes.gif
edit, misread completely wow lol...read below.
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I got a Crucial M4 mate. Anyways, the best way for me to change the installation folders, is to replicate the Users/SgtMunky/Program Files (x86) folders on the secondary drive. This way, the path is the exact same as the default apart from the initial drive letter

That way, instead of browsing to my secondary drive and choosing/making the right folder, I just change the letter at the start of the 'install to' window smile.gif

You might have said this somewhere though, ignore me if so rolleyes.gif

Just be careful with that. The "programs files" and "programs files (x86)" directories are on the root of your OS drive (typically C:\), not in the "Users" directory.
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@sean

For the Oulook data file, if I have it my storage HDD would it not slow down things? What indexing will work then, indexing for the SSD or the HDD? Is the data file the one being indexed?

So when can you shrink your pagefile, if you have more than 4GB or RAM?

Regarding the guide, why is that most of the time when I click any of the "click to show" links I am directed to the top part of the page? I have to click any link over and over for the guides to show properly. Is this because of Firefox?

@xandyx

so basically, the 100MB partition is a "recovery" partition and nothing else? without the secondary hdd plugged in during windows 7 install, the recovery partition will be installed in the primary ssd? With it plugged, it will be installed in it? Am I correct?
Edited by kevindd992002 - 12/30/11 at 6:12am
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@sean

For the Oulook data file, if I have it my storage HDD would it not slow down things? What indexing will work then, indexing for the SSD or the HDD? Is the data file the one being indexed?

So when can you shrink your pagefile, if you have more than 4GB or RAM?

Regarding the guide, why is that most of the time when I click any of the "click to show" links I am directed to the top part of the page? I have to click any link over and over for the guides to show properly. Is this because of Firefox?

@xandyx

so basically, the 100MB partition is a "recovery" partition and nothing else? without the secondary hdd plugged in during windows 7 install, the recovery partition will be installed in the primary ssd? With it plugged, it will be installed in it? Am I correct?

Assuming you only have the SSD attached when you install windows, if you start with an "unallocated" drive, windows will create a 100MB "recovery" partition, and the primary data partition. the BCD information for the OS will be written into the 100MB partition, and the OS installed on the primary. If you manually create the primary partition before the installation begins, using all of the space on the drive, windows will create and install a BCD directory on the primary partition.

If you have a secondary drive attached that has unallocated space, Windows will always attempt to create the 100MB partition on the secondary drive.

The 100MB (often labeled "system reserved") partiton is only currently used for the BCD information, and (under windows 7) the pre-windows memory test program.
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Assuming you only have the SSD attached when you install windows, if you start with an "unallocated" drive, windows will create a 100MB "recovery" partition, and the primary data partition. the BCD information for the OS will be written into the 100MB partition, and the OS installed on the primary. If you manually create the primary partition before the installation begins, using all of the space on the drive, windows will create and install a BCD directory on the primary partition.
If you have a secondary drive attached that has unallocated space, Windows will always attempt to create the 100MB partition on the secondary drive.
The 100MB (often labeled "system reserved") partiton is only currently used for the BCD information, and (under windows 7) the pre-windows memory test program.

So with a secondary hard disk drive attached, there will be no 100MB partition in the SSD?

Things will be different with GPT because the 100MB partition is necessary, right?
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Weird, maybe b/c your SSD is not in the first SATA port on the mobo?
edit, misread completely wow lol...read below.

it is in the second port and my dvd drive is in the first port. or maybe its vice versa. its in 1 or 2. no hard drives in front of it in the port order. but it used the ssd for the experience index before i plugged the other 2 in when following your guide. its not a huge deal i just wanted to have a nice pretty score. but i am still going to try what you posted. does it have anything to do with change drive letter paths in the registry? is there a registry entry for w.e.i. to have the primary disk? if so i couldve changed that when switching my default program files directories and user directories. theyre in ahci also btw.
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Assuming you only have the SSD attached when you install windows, if you start with an "unallocated" drive, windows will create a 100MB "recovery" partition, and the primary data partition. the BCD information for the OS will be written into the 100MB partition, and the OS installed on the primary. If you manually create the primary partition before the installation begins, using all of the space on the drive, windows will create and install a BCD directory on the primary partition.
If you have a secondary drive attached that has unallocated space, Windows will always attempt to create the 100MB partition on the secondary drive.
The 100MB (often labeled "system reserved") partiton is only currently used for the BCD information, and (under windows 7) the pre-windows memory test program.

So with a secondary hard disk drive attached, there will be no 100MB partition in the SSD?

Things will be different with GPT because the 100MB partition is necessary, right?

Usually no, but only if the secondary drive has unallocated space. If the secondary drive is fully partitioned and formatted, windows can't create a new partition on the secondary drive, and the reserved partition will still end up on the SSD if it hasn't been pre-partitioned.

With GPT, basicially the same thing applies. You don't have to have the 100MB partition, but it is not adviseable to remove it. Only because it is used (written to) by the UEFI, during POST, as the UEFI polls the system and finds hardware changes. Under MBR, the recovery partition, after it has all the information required for a typical boot, is not written to, unless a major change to the OS is made (ie... a windows update that changes something related to the BCD [Win7 SP1 as an example]).

With GPT, it is possible to get the BCD information onto the primary partition (just like MBR), but eventually the information written by the UEFI ends up scattered all over the primary partition, which may cause later problems. The only "real" requirement of GPT (under windows), is that the free space for the MSR cannot be removed, for windows to function with GPT.
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@sean

For the Oulook data file, if I have it my storage HDD would it not slow down things? What indexing will work then, indexing for the SSD or the HDD? Is the data file the one being indexed?

ummmm idk lol sorry I'm just going off what i heard and it seemed to improve performance a little.
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So when can you shrink your pagefile, if you have more than 4GB or RAM?
yea, over 4GB then you can consider shrinking.
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Regarding the guide, why is that most of the time when I click any of the "click to show" links I am directed to the top part of the page? I have to click any link over and over for the guides to show properly. Is this because of Firefox?
I know! I have that same issue! It is a annoying!

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it is in the second port and my dvd drive is in the first port. or maybe its vice versa. its in 1 or 2. no hard drives in front of it in the port order. but it used the ssd for the experience index before i plugged the other 2 in when following your guide. its not a huge deal i just wanted to have a nice pretty score. but i am still going to try what you posted. does it have anything to do with change drive letter paths in the registry? is there a registry entry for w.e.i. to have the primary disk? if so i couldve changed that when switching my default program files directories and user directories. theyre in ahci also btw.

I am not sure. See what you can find smile.gif
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