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With all things done in the guide plus all the drivers and Microsoft Office, approximately how big should I expect is the used space in my SSD?

Im using up 18 GB with windows, office, firefox and lightroom installed on the SSD.



Thanks for writing the guide Sean, helped me get mine setup and its was easy as pie.
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Usually no, but only if the secondary drive has unallocated space. If the secondary drive is fully partitioned and formatted, windows can't create a new partition on the secondary drive, and the reserved partition will still end up on the SSD if it hasn't been pre-partitioned.
With GPT, basicially the same thing applies. You don't have to have the 100MB partition, but it is not adviseable to remove it. Only because it is used (written to) by the UEFI, during POST, as the UEFI polls the system and finds hardware changes. Under MBR, the recovery partition, after it has all the information required for a typical boot, is not written to, unless a major change to the OS is made (ie... a windows update that changes something related to the BCD [Win7 SP1 as an example]).
With GPT, it is possible to get the BCD information onto the primary partition (just like MBR), but eventually the information written by the UEFI ends up scattered all over the primary partition, which may cause later problems. The only "real" requirement of GPT (under windows), is that the free space for the MSR cannot be removed, for windows to function with GPT.

Thanks. About my question a few days ago, why is that I already deleted all partitions in my OS drive and then used the jumper to reset the CMOS/NVRAM of my board but upon booting I still see that pesky Windows Boot Manager icon?

Sorry, now i remember you asking that question.

Since you followed the steps to clear everything, the Windows Boot Manager entry is hard coded to your UEFI. If you recall the explanation of how the UEFI works on POST, the NVRAM contains certain entries that have been coded directly to the chip. This is not unusual in a UEFI, as the code writers attempt to pick up every potential boot device that the UEFI may see to keep POST time to a minimum. Windows Boot Manager is a fairly generic entry, as it can cover quite a few boot locations, but is usually a direct link to the BCD, whereever it be located.
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Sorry, now i remember you asking that question.
Since you followed the steps to clear everything, the Windows Boot Manager entry is hard coded to your UEFI. If you recall the explanation of how the UEFI works on POST, the NVRAM contains certain entries that have been coded directly to the chip. This is not unusual in a UEFI, as the code writers attempt to pick up every potential boot device that the UEFI may see to keep POST time to a minimum. Windows Boot Manager is a fairly generic entry, as it can cover quite a few boot locations, but is usually a direct link to the BCD, whereever it be located.

Ok. So at this point, I can never get rid of that Windows Boot Manager? Would it even add up to the total performance of the system if I delete and recreate this Windows Boot Manager? I swear that there was a single time that it was gone after a clear CMOS procedure and I had to use the Win7 setup disk for repairing the BCD info for my SSD to be able to boot.
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Ok. So at this point, I can never get rid of that Windows Boot Manager? Would it even add up to the total performance of the system if I delete and recreate this Windows Boot Manager? I swear that there was a single time that it was gone after a clear CMOS procedure and I had to use the Win7 setup disk for repairing the BCD info for my SSD to be able to boot.

not sure if you tried it but, does flashing the CMOS get rid of it? If not I would take every disk out except the one you want to install windows on and do a fresh install. thats what I had to do and I had a similar problem.
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Just got my SSD, and it's mindblowingly fast biggrin.gif, managed to free up 13GB of space thanks to your guide Sean thumb.gif
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Anyway you may consider adding something to show people a few ways to free up space when their drives are nearly full? Maybe a program showing the size of folder contents or something like that? Very nice job on the thread.

Like CSM said and also there is this: http://windirstat.info/
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With all things done in the guide plus all the drivers and Microsoft Office, approximately how big should I expect is the used space in my SSD?
I have ~11GB used up after everything done. Then the programs get installed and I have ~35GB used. Then after a month I have ~30GB used lol.
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i just redone my setup and approx 18-20gb
i have a couple of extra apps installed thtas why i take the 2gb marge:p
also at sean.
im not native english so i dont understand what you mean with do not use the marvel poorts.
could you explain it please a little bit in simpler words for my noobishm:p
ive i use them it should give bad 4k readings from what i understand

Well that is what they are called, they are the Marvell SATA 3 ports. Use your Manual for your mobo.
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i did the benches could you please take alook if its ok or if im using the marvel poort for my ssd?
system specs are in my sig.
thanks you for reading:D
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edit: i know its offtopic but im new and dunno where to find it:S
where can i adjust my rig thats in my sig?
when i go there in profiles its all blank and says i dont have a rig:s
Top right in sig builder or at the bottom of your profile page.
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Is it just me or are people with the crucial m4 in their system losing also the "windows 7 startup sound" every time we boot up our system? It seems that the boot is so fast that it doesn't play that infamous startup sound.
I have it lol, try editing the sound settings sor smething? Maybe it is the Windows theme you have on? Try a different Windows theme.
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Im using up 18 GB with windows, office, firefox and lightroom installed on the SSD.
Thanks for writing the guide Sean, helped me get mine setup and its was easy as pie.
No problem, glad you liked it! biggrin.gif
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Just got my SSD, and it's mindblowingly fast biggrin.gif, managed to free up 13GB of space thanks to your guide Sean thumb.gif
Sweet! Congrats! smile.gif
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not sure if you tried it but, does flashing the CMOS get rid of it? If not I would take every disk out except the one you want to install windows on and do a fresh install. thats what I had to do and I had a similar problem.

Did that also, nothing. I removed everything from the motherboard and did a CMOS reset, CMOS flash, name it and it is still there.
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Like CSM said and also there is this: http://windirstat.info/
I have ~11GB used up after everything done. Then the programs get installed and I have ~35GB used. Then after a month I have ~30GB used lol.
Well that is what they are called, they are the Marvell SATA 3 ports. Use your Manual for your mobo.
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i did the benches could you please take alook if its ok or if im using the marvel poort for my ssd?
system specs are in my sig.
thanks you for reading:D
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edit: i know its offtopic but im new and dunno where to find it:S
where can i adjust my rig thats in my sig?
when i go there in profiles its all blank and says i dont have a rig:s
Top right in sig builder or at the bottom of your profile page.
I have it lol, try editing the sound settings sor smething? Maybe it is the Windows theme you have on? Try a different Windows theme.
No problem, glad you liked it! biggrin.gif
Sweet! Congrats! smile.gif

Oh ok, I have 20GB used with Microsoft Office installed and all Windows updates. You think it's normal?

Weird, because I have the default theme of Win7? Why don't I have that sound. It's the first time that happened to me. Do you have GUI boot enabled or disabled? I have mine disabled.
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Oh ok, I have 20GB used with Microsoft Office installed and all Windows updates. You think it's normal?

Do you have system protection enabled, hibernation on, what size pagefile, indexing enabled?
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Weird, because I have the default theme of Win7? Why don't I have that sound. It's the first time that happened to me. Do you have GUI boot enabled or disabled? I have mine disabled.

Mine works fine.
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So much info...thanks for creating this thread.

I will be getting a new SSD sometime soon... I was kinda hoping to just be able to move the OS and a few other things over to the HDD, but I guess a fresh install is recommended/easier to do? I'm a little confused about this; after making a fresh install on the SSD we take a "system image" from the HDD and put it on the SSD? Or will I have to just reinstall everything and wipe my HDD?


Sorry if these questions are retarded...I seem to have underestimated how difficult installing an SSD/HDD combo (SSD for OS and some games and HDD for everything else) would be.
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So much info...thanks for creating this thread.

I will be getting a new SSD sometime soon... I was kinda hoping to just be able to move the OS and a few other things over to the HDD, but I guess a fresh install is recommended/easier to do?

Yes a fresh install is best.
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I'm a little confused about this; after making a fresh install on the SSD we take a "system image" from the HDD and put it on the SSD? Or will I have to just reinstall everything and wipe my HDD?
No, no, no. You make a system image of the OS on the SSD. This allows you to have an exact back up of your system before you do anything else so you can easily revert to it and not have to reinstall in case of the need. I will make a small guide and video for it soon. smile.gif
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Sorry if these questions are retarded...I seem to have underestimated how difficult installing an SSD/HDD combo (SSD for OS and some games and HDD for everything else) would be.
lol, no question is retarded, what is retarded is not asking any questions and then screwing something up that could have been prevented. wink.gif

Basically all OS files, drivers, programs, games, anything you want you put on the SSD.

All personal files like music, photos, video, games, downloads put on the HDD if you can't fit them on the SSD.
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