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I have gone through quite a bit of this thread. I have seen some benching of the SSD with tweaks. However, I am not seeing any bench marks showing stock Windows 7 install vs. Windows 7 with all of these tweaks. I would be interested in the space saved as well as the speed difference. Perhaps I have over looked it. Brain is fried after a 12 hour work day and all this wonderful data... axesmiley.png
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I'm really liking how the SSD shuts down my system so blazing fast and booting up. I am really glad i got one for a sucker deal that BB failed to notice their price biggrin.gif Now i'm so gonna save up for a BIGGER SSD which we all know are extremely a bit expensive but will be so worth it cuz i'm wanting to add a lot of games on it instead of being limited with 80gb which isn't considered too bad.

120gb and up will be totally so worth it. Amazing how 512gb is so fricking expensive you can afford a 500 series card lol.

Oh if i ever wanted to reformat my system. I can just reformat the regular way and reinstall Windows then tweak the commands again? Is that appropriate to use? Oh also is it safe to use DBAN Nuke on SSD? Just wanted to learn this in ahead advance for future reference in case i ever wanna start fresh again.
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Originally Posted by Crabby654 View Post

Just a side note on the M4 0309 Firmware:
Double check your Disk Drive settings for the M4 in Device Manager because for me it removed the check mark for "Turn off Windows write-cache buffer flushing on the device". So after you do the update, may wanna double check this! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by exzacklyright View Post

Mine was unchecked as well.

When the installed drive (any drive for this matter) is detected by Windows in the taskbar, that checkbox will always stay at its default value of unchecked smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

I tried enabling the cache after installing to the SSD...it erased my drive and i had to reinstall. I honestly have no idea how you can get your idea to work properly.
I have a guide in the third post...partition your HDD and move the data to the new partition and delete the old.

If you use an SSD as a cache drive for an HDD, you CANNOT use the remaining SSD space for OS installation. HDD-SSD caching (Intel SRT) requires you to install the OS in the HDD. So for example you have a 128GB SSD and you use 64GB as cache for your HDD (I think 64GB is the max capacity supported for caching), you will just waste the remaining 64GB of the SSD. FYI smile.gif
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Oh also is it safe to use DBAN Nuke on SSD? Just wanted to learn this in ahead advance for future reference in case i ever wanna start fresh again.

No... First, it's not good for the drive, and second.. It wouldn't work properly anyway.

not good for the drive.. writes to the drive too many times.
wouldn't work properly... just like the OS, DBan cannot control where it writes to on the drive. The SSD's controller is responsible for that, and due to wear leveling algorithms, wouldn't get you the intended results.

With an SSD, all you need is to perform a "secure erase". The secure erase command flushes the stored electrons from the flash memory cells, effectively erasing the drive to an un-recoverable state.
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some programs want to auto install to my C drive. fo example, google chrome. it doesnt have an option to set its destination and goes right to the C drive.
is there a way around this?
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I tried these steps and got both the cache started and the OS loaded into the remaining partition of the SSD.
Just have the HDD hooked up
Install windows on the HDD that you be using with the cache, if you want a bootable HDD
install RST and initate the cache
It appears to give you two options 18GB or the max (64GB)
Disconnect the HDD hook up the SSD
Boot into windows from the USB or DVD
During the boot you'll see the cache is enabled
Install Windows on SSD, you will need the storage drivers
Shutdown and connect HDD
Reboot from the SSD and install the RST
Do all the optimizing Sean's guide.

The downside of this is only having ~55GD on the OS partiton. But you cache the much bigger HHD with 64GB. If it works as its touted, the most used items from the HDD will be in the cache. So I'm thinking having the cache bigger is better as I don't think the OS will need that much space thanks to Sean. My plan was to put the User data and other programs on the HDD anyhow so I think this gives me the best of both. Does leaving the installed OS on the HDD help me or hurt me in setting up the user directories, etc? I'm planning on setting up Raid 0 on 2 1TB drive for movies stream. It does give me the option of booting up into the HDD if something happens to the SSD. Also I can back up the SSD onto the HDD
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Originally Posted by Maynard46 View Post

some programs want to auto install to my C drive. fo example, google chrome. it doesnt have an option to set its destination and goes right to the C drive.
is there a way around this?

Why would you want it on the HDD? lol

and yes, check Google.
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I tried these steps and got both the cache started and the OS loaded into the remaining partition of the SSD.
Just have the HDD hooked up
Install windows on the HDD that you be using with the cache, if you want a bootable HDD
install RST and initate the cache
It appears to give you two options 18GB or the max (64GB)
Disconnect the HDD hook up the SSD
Boot into windows from the USB or DVD
During the boot you'll see the cache is enabled
Install Windows on SSD, you will need the storage drivers
Shutdown and connect HDD
Reboot from the SSD and install the RST
Do all the optimizing Sean's guide.

The downside of this is only having ~55GD on the OS partiton. But you cache the much bigger HHD with 64GB. If it works as its touted, the most used items from the HDD will be in the cache. So I'm thinking having the cache bigger is better as I don't think the OS will need that much space thanks to Sean. My plan was to put the User data and other programs on the HDD anyhow so I think this gives me the best of both. Does leaving the installed OS on the HDD help me or hurt me in setting up the user directories, etc? I'm planning on setting up Raid 0 on 2 1TB drive for movies stream. It does give me the option of booting up into the HDD if something happens to the SSD. Also I can back up the SSD onto the HDD

It does not work like that, you need the OS to be active for the HDD to be cached to the SSD...

You are effectively doing absolutely nothing with that cached space.
post #1618 of 5384
I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the OS must be active. After I install the IRST on the SSD. It shows both the OS and the cache. being on the physical SSD. It shows the HDD as being accelerated. During the boot it shows the same thing. How can I tell if the SSD is actually accelerating the HDD.
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the OS must be active. After I install the IRST on the SSD. It shows both the OS and the cache. being on the physical SSD. It shows the HDD as being accelerated. During the boot it shows the same thing. How can I tell if the SSD is actually accelerating the HDD.

Run AS SSD two times on the HDD cache while booted from the SSD. And post a screen shot.
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Why would you want it on the HDD? lol

i dont want google chrome on the hdd...i was just using that as an example. i want some apps to install on the hdd instead of the ssd. But they dont always have the option to choose the destination.....do you know of a work around that is specific to windows 7? or would google be the option for any of these apps
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