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hey sean, is there any way you can add to the OP why you shouldnt do a low level format on a ssd and that the secure erase is a better alternative. i keep seeing threads pop up here and there asking whats the difference.
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Should I use "cre par pri align=" 4096 or 1024 for a SSD RAID? I'm not sure if by "multiple disks" you mean HDDs specifically or both HDDs and SSDs (in the "Configure a drive using a BIOS/UEFI motherboard and MBR format" section). Thanks!
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hey sean, is there any way you can add to the OP why you shouldnt do a low level format on a ssd and that the secure erase is a better alternative. i keep seeing threads pop up here and there asking whats the difference.

I have that in my SSD buyers guide and info thread:
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Quick vs. Full Formatting:
Here I explain what the difference b/w a quick and full format are and why you should only quick format your SSD.

  • A quick format - is a formatting option that creates a new file table on a hard disk but does not fully overwrite or erase the disk. Quick formatting erases/rewites the FT (File Table) of the File System partition. So basically quick formatting just erases/rewrites anew what is essentially a directory that tells the operating system where files are and what spaces are free to write new data on.

  • A full format - is a formatting option that creates a new file table on a hard disk, but does not fully overwrite and erase the disk as well. A full format erases/rewrites the FT (File Table) of the File System partition and runs chkdsk. Chkdsk does one pass of writing zero's to the drive to ensure that the sectors are working properly. But the zero's are also rewritten with the previous 1 or 0. This is why full formats take so much longer. So basically a full format is quick format + Chkdsk.

  • You don't need to run chckdsk on your drive b/c all it does is check for bad sectors and checks file system integrity (SSDs don't have sectors) and it is not "good" for your SSD because all it does is cause add wear to the memory cells when you don't need it to.


Erasing all the data on the SSD:
It is not safe to use DBAN Nuke on SSD. First, it's not good for the drive, and second, it wouldn't work properly anyway. Not good for the drive because it writes to the drive too many times. Wouldn't work properly because just like the OS, DBan cannot control where it writes to on the drive. The SSD's controller is responsible for that, and due to wear leveling algorithms, wouldn't get you the intended results. With an SSD, all you need is to perform a "secure erase". The secure erase command flushes the stored electrons from the flash memory cells, effectively erasing the drive's data to an unrecoverable state.
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Should I use "cre par pri align=" 4096 or 1024 for a SSD RAID? I'm not sure if by "multiple disks" you mean HDDs specifically or both HDDs and SSDs (in the "Configure a drive using a BIOS/UEFI motherboard and MBR format" section). Thanks!
If you have your drives in RAID 0 then use 1024.
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i call HAXORZ. that wasnt there earlier. maybe it was and im just going blind lol. tongue.gif
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i call HAXORZ. that wasnt there earlier. maybe it was and im just going blind lol. tongue.gif

That has been there for weeks...LOL you're blind
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That has been there for weeks...LOL you're blind

HA. no argurment there. biggrin.gif

also i passed on that revo drive. ill think ill hold on to that $400. IB is due in a couple months. wheee.gif
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just installed my ssd. I didn't update firmware (gonna do that later).
How does this look?
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Also how do you install the intel srt driver?
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just installed my ssd. I didn't update firmware (gonna do that later).
How does this look?
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Also how do you install the intel srt driver?

You download the driver and install it like any other program or driver...it is common sense and in step 7 of my guide...
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hey sean just wondering if you know if any of the optimizations would cause Intel Rapid Storage Technology to not operate? it was working and then last night i noticed it was showing in the lower left corner as not running. I clicked to start it and the pop up said windows is troubleshooting why its not working. then the pop up went away with no explanation. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it still would not work. I am using the current version from Intel

Is Intel RST even needed and do you recommend it?

Do you know if any of the optimizations would prevent it from working? I did all the optimizations when i installed the SSD and had no trouble........as i am typing this i just remembered that the other day i changed Shrink Page File from 400mb to disabling it all together. I wonder if that is the cause?

I am away from that PC so i cant check but wonder what you think

thanks
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hey sean just wondering if you know if any of the optimizations would cause Intel Rapid Storage Technology to not operate? it was working and then last night i noticed it was showing in the lower left corner as not running. I clicked to start it and the pop up said windows is troubleshooting why its not working. then the pop up went away with no explanation. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it still would not work. I am using the current version from Intel

Is Intel RST even needed and do you recommend it?

Do you know if any of the optimizations would prevent it from working? I did all the optimizations when i installed the SSD and had no trouble........as i am typing this i just remembered that the other day i changed Shrink Page File from 400mb to disabling it all together. I wonder if that is the cause?

I am away from that PC so i cant check but wonder what you think

thanks

No the page file has nothing to do with it. But the RST manager in the taskbar has a delayed start, the driver works fine as well. You get better performance from the Intel drive3r over the old MSAHCI one.
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