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Sean,
These have been floating around about a month and are WHQL. Are they ok to use?

new Intel RST driver 11.0.0.1032 WHQL

Date
Driver Revision
Build Number
22 December 2011
11.0.0.1032 Production Version
1032

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2215900

Never used them or heard much about them. You can use them if you want tho, they can always be uninstalled.
post #1922 of 5384
Just got a new Force GT 120gb drive. I want to update the firmware. But it says you can't use the update with the drives set to Raid. If I set the system to ACHI, then it won't boot. My other system is also setup in a Raid. What's the best option? Do I really have to yank all the dive and setup a drive and install Windows 7?
post #1923 of 5384
thanks for the guide sean! used this and my drive is performing top notch and Windows only used around 12GB smile.gif
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Originally Posted by kpo6969 View Post

Sean,
These have been floating around about a month and are WHQL. Are they ok to use?
new Intel RST driver 11.0.0.1032 WHQL
Date
Driver Revision
Build Number
22 December 2011
11.0.0.1032 Production Version
1032
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2215900

wow what a fluke, just decided to read the last page of this thread and saw the LATER drivers.

Can anyone explain why these drivers are not found on intels actual site when doing search for RST and stuff?

I've been having problems with SSD freezing: http://www.overclock.net/t/1207382/help-new-intel-x25-m-ssd-freezing-stuttering/10 and maybe this is another option I can try (as mentioned above, I'll just uninstlal if they don't really work out.....)
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Just got a new Force GT 120gb drive. I want to update the firmware. But it says you can't use the update with the drives set to Raid. If I set the system to ACHI, then it won't boot. My other system is also setup in a Raid. What's the best option? Do I really have to yank all the dive and setup a drive and install Windows 7?
You can take the drives and update them in another system or breaks the array and reinstall, or use a different drive to install the OS onto and then date them that way. Just disable RAID and flash the drives seperately with the Linux flasher, (if there is one) then enable RAID again. SandForce drives are terrible to update, I'm glad i didn't get one lol.
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What is the relationship between the latest RST drivers and the RST OROM in a mobo specific bios? The RST release notes on some versions of RST state the need for a specific versions of RST OROM needed to obtain specific functionality of new RST drivers. It seems that installing the latest RST drivers may not allways give the added functionality expected unless a mobo RST OROM supports it. So it appears more complicated then a RST update, or is it?
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What is the relationship between the latest RST drivers and the RST OROM in a mobo specific bios? The RST release notes on some versions of RST state the need for a specific versions of RST OROM needed to obtain specific functionality of new RST drivers. It seems that installing the latest RST drivers may not allways give the added functionality expected unless a mobo RST OROM supports it. So it appears more complicated then a RST update, or is it?

When Intel releases a newer version of IRST, sometimes there is added functionality in the driver that is accessible through the OpRom. Up until reciently, most of the updates didn't affect, or should I say the OpROM that was running from your BIOS/UEFI didn't have problems with the different versions of IRST driver. Forget about just functionality loss. incompatiblities have caused major problems.

Intel will now (as you have seen) be posting, along with the IRST driver, the minimal OROM required to run the newer drivers. I see this as creating problems for end users (My Opinion), as it is the Motherboard manufacturers that have to update BIOS/UEFI to incorporate the newer OpROM requirements. There have been issues where end user have updated IRST drivers, and don't have the minimal OROM required to support them. Stories of being unable to "see" a fixed disk attached to a system, inability to partition or format a drive... real basic funcitionality loss, due to an incompatability between the IRST driver, and the Intel OpROM of the motherboard.
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So this is probably a very silly question. I'm feeling particularly lazy so i'll just ask it.

The Rapid Storage Technology software I've installed. What has it done? All I see is a RST software program with my current status being "functioning normally".
    
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So this is probably a very silly question. I'm feeling particularly lazy so i'll just ask it.

The Rapid Storage Technology software I've installed. What has it done? All I see is a RST software program with my current status being "functioning normally".

Probably nothing beyond giving you the best driver possible for your intel PCH. The problems that I've heard of, are not with the drivers themselves, but with how they interface with the configuration utility.

I should probably clarify my post above.

It seems that once a drive is configured, and the OS installed and operating, updating the Intel RST drivers (to even the latest "unofficial" v11.x) from a configuration standpoint, doesn't seem to harm/change an existing installation. The driver updates based on the existing configuration settings.

The problems I've heard of, (and I don't know how wide spread they are), have occured with, (I'll call them mismatched; not technically correct; OpROM and IRST driver are not required to be the same version), OpROM/Driver combos where the OpRom does not meet the minimum requirements, but a drive/system has yet to be set up.; (ie. the drive is not yet partitioned/formatted.) It is believed, (although unverified by Intel) that in this case, the IRST driver has no previous settings to apply from an "old" installation to the new. It also can not pull "default" settings from the Motherboards OpROM, because (without a compatable OpROM) the settings it wants don't match, or don't exist. So the installation becomes buggy.

How the driver can effectively update using existing "windows" settings (without the new funcitionallity settings) is anyones guess, but it seems to without issue. The reason I said both "system & drive", is because the problem of a "new" drive not showing up in windows, can occur with an intact/operating OS. When this particular problem occurs, with the addition of a "new" storage drive, the problem manifests itself just like when a drive is not initialized in Windows, and does not show up in "Computer". The IRST problem is worse, in that the drive will not show up in disk management either, so it's not an initialization thing.

That's about all I know of the "issue"... It's relatively new, so I'm pretty confident some code writer somewhere is attempting to loacte the bug. In a nutshell, it's something that will more than likely get worked out... but as I said before, not without a lot of end user headaches in the meantime.
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Just chipping in with a successful new Crucial M4 128G install here! Flying along nicely now!!

Done this basically ..

Disconnected current WD 500G drive
Check ACHI and ACPI2 in the BIOS
Upgraded to latest firmware for SSD
Install Win 7 64bit SP! following Seans guide for MBR format .. (nice one , new to me!!)
Installed latest AMD SATA drivers and other drivers ... oddly Win 7 doesn't install LAN drivers for my mobo so I had to sort that out!
connect 500 GB drive back up for other stuff ..

odd tweaks ..
Turned off Drive Indexing
Turned off Prefetch and Superfetch .. not done automatically in my case!
Got rid of the Hibernation feature
Change Power options .. sleep/never and Turn off Hard Drives/never

another thing I always do with a fresh install is to enable the 'real' Administrator account and use that instead of the one created at install (which I delete anyway)

Not done so far ..
moving user folders/temp files/similar tweaks .. I'm going to leave the OS/Application stuff where it is I think!

Thats it so far .. heres a benchie ...

501

Not a speedy as others I've seen around here , I'm on SATA II which probably makes a difference!
Maybe I'll do another run in a week or two , but I'm not normally into benchmarks and all that jazz!!

Anyhow, I'm happy with things so far , so thanks Sean for the guide , very useful and informative!!
     
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